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What Siouxsie Sioux Really Thinks About the "Goth" Label
Far Out Magazine ^ | FRI 20TH MAY 20 | Mick McStarkey

Posted on 05/28/2022 11:03:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Siouxsie Sioux is one of the most important musicians of the past 50 years. Growing up in the suburb of Chislehurst, London, she always knew she was different, and her early experiences of living on the peripheries of her family and of the local community inspired the rage in her that would drive her to cast off the connection she once had to the Sex Pistols. As the frontwoman of Siouxsie and the Banshees, she cultivated a unique and uncompromising style that continues to inspire to this day.

Sioux showed that women could tussle with the men and win resoundingly. The list of female pioneers she made an impact on is truly dizzying, and without her, the landscape of alternative culture would look very barren in comparison to the fluid menagerie it is today.

Take this account of her from the equally as legendary Viv Albertine of the Slits: “Siouxsie just appeared fully made, fully in control, utterly confident. It totally blew me away. There she was doing something that I dared to dream but she took it and did it and it wiped the rest of the festival for me, that was it. I can’t even remember everything else about it except that one performance.” Her impact goes far beyond just galvanising female performers, though.

Massive Attack, Tricky, The Weeknd, Jeff Buckley, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Radiohead, Sonic Youth, Radiohead, Johnny Marr, Joy Division, U2 and The Jesus and Mary Chain are just some of the sonic heroes to mention her as a transformative inspiration. It’s a testament to the quality of her work that she’s managed to influence such a diverse mix of artists.

Notably, Sioux is hailed as the high priestess of all things goth and although she did a lot to advance the proliferation of the subculture, the tag is something that she’s not totally a fan of.

“What I really resent about people sticking labels on you,” she said in 2004, “is that it cuts off the other elements of what you are, because it can only deal with black and white: the cartoon.”

This is understandable, as seeing her as purely a goth is reductive and doesn’t account for just how multi-faceted she is, even if goth itself is a very broad spectrum. Her music is punk, psychedelic, industrial, and much more than purely goth. In a 2005 interview with The Guardian, when discussing her title as “the queen of goth”, she simply said: “I hate all that”.

“Gothic in its purest sense is actually a very powerful, twisted genre, but the way it was being used by by journalists – goff with a double f – always seemed to me to be about tacky harum-scarum horror, and I find that anything but scary,” she explained elsewhere. “That wasn’t what we were about at all.”

Maybe it’s time we start seeing Siouxsie in a different light. Listen to Siouxsie and the Banshees’ Spellbound’ below.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: music; punkrock; siouxie
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To: nickcarraway

Bookmark for later.


21 posted on 05/29/2022 2:34:06 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Salamander

I’m saving it!


22 posted on 05/29/2022 2:35:16 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: nickcarraway

Should they change the name to “Susie and the Guardians”?


23 posted on 05/29/2022 2:39:25 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“That voice of hers with the high pitch yodell or whatever you call it is wild”

I’ve always wondered if that’s why her band was called The Banshees.

A little hat tip to Celtic mythology, maybe.

;)


24 posted on 05/29/2022 2:56:11 AM PDT by Salamander (Please visit my profile page help save my beloved dog's life. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2FUF)
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To: Salamander

Great tune.


25 posted on 05/29/2022 2:57:55 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: FreedomForce

“Peek-A-Boo” was played on MTV all the time. Many people probably remember the video if not the name of the song.


26 posted on 05/29/2022 3:43:02 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Salamander

Shakespears Sister had some good songs too.


27 posted on 05/29/2022 3:46:22 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Salamander

Possibly. This is what was said about her voice:

Legacy

Her voice is, in its own right, the common thread through all of it. There is no one who sings like that. And I think there are a lot of people who were influenced by it, but even if you try and sing like her, you can’t do that. You can’t throw your voice like that. You can’t throw harmony like that. That is a very distinct voice. Her technique is a thread between the really far-out stuff and opera and pop music. It’s distinct. It’s all her own.

— Dave Sitek of TV on the Radio[81]


28 posted on 05/29/2022 3:52:42 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: nickcarraway

Most of her stuff doesn’t grab me, but Through the Looking Glass is an excellent album. Listening to it now.


29 posted on 05/29/2022 3:58:00 AM PDT by KevinB (''...and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: nickcarraway
Never heard of her.


30 posted on 05/29/2022 4:02:00 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: FreedomForce
Ask a thousand people at random to name a Siouxsie and the Banshees song. How many would be able to do it?

"Kiss Them For Me" is the only one I know. I like it... but it really is the only one I know.

31 posted on 05/29/2022 4:02:55 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Salamander

OOOHH that is very early Billy Idol


32 posted on 05/29/2022 4:04:27 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: nickcarraway

“ Siouxsie Sioux is one of the most important musicians of the past 50 years. ”

No, No no no no.

Not in a world that has hosted Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Paul McCartney, Jeff Beck, Duane Allman, Ginger Baker, Bob Dylan, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye, and at least a hundred more.

Tier three at best, more likely tier four.


33 posted on 05/29/2022 4:21:48 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: nickcarraway

Wtf... 33 posts and no flattering pics up yet?? Smmfh...


34 posted on 05/29/2022 4:36:09 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: FreedomForce
"...Siouxsie Sioux is one of the most important musicians of the past 50 years...

Little bit of hyperbole. A lot, actually.

35 posted on 05/29/2022 4:54:43 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: sit-rep
She is more what the English would call a handsome woman rather than conventionally beautiful.
36 posted on 05/29/2022 5:26:00 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve always been impressed by Siouxie.

‘Peek-a-boo’ is transformative.


37 posted on 05/29/2022 5:35:11 AM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: Salamander

Good cover of Iggy’s “The Passenger”.


38 posted on 05/29/2022 5:37:00 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

The use of The Passenger at the end of the film I, Tonya is....chef’s kiss.


39 posted on 05/29/2022 5:45:21 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: Cecily

Recognize a few others in there as well!!

bttt!!


40 posted on 05/29/2022 5:49:20 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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