Father of Uvalde Shooter: ‘I Don’t Want Them Calling Him a Monster… They Don’t Know Nothing’

The Gateway Pundit ^ | 5/28/2022 | Cassandra Fairbanks

[logi_cal869]

The father of the 18-year-old who shot and killed 19 students and two teachers at an Uvalde elementary school after shooting his grandmother in the face has apologized for his sons actions — but demanded “I don’t want them calling him a monster.” Salvador Ramos Sr. told the Daily Beast on Thursday, “I just want the people to know I’m sorry man, [for] what my son did.”

The 42-year-old admitted that he had not seen his son in some time due to his fears about being exposed to COVID-19. He said that his son became frustrated with his COVID concerns about a month ago and stopped speaking to him.

“I never expected my son to do something like that,” Ramos continued. “He should’ve just killed me, you know, instead of doing something like that to someone.”

Ramos told the outlet that he was working when his mother called him to tell him what was going on. He called the local jail looking for his son, before realizing what had happened.

“They killed my baby man,” he said. “I’m never gonna see my son again, just like they’re not gonna see their kids. And that hurts me.”

The Daily Beast reports that “Ramos insisted that his son was ‘a good person’ who ‘stuck to himself.'”

The father of the killer said that he wished his son had just shot him instead.

“My mom tells me he probably would have shot me too, because he would always say I didn’t love him,” he said.

The seemingly MIA parent blamed his son’s reportedly drug-addicted mother Adriana Reyes for not buying him more clothes. He said that he was often bullied at school for wearing the same pants every day. The father was, apparently, not concerned enough to buy him some himself.

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“I don’t want them calling him a monster… they don’t know nothing, man,” he said. “They don’t know anything he was going through.”

The killer’s mother also made excuses for the monster she helped create.

In a Spanish-language interview she asked the public not to “judge” him because he “had his reasons.”

“I have no words. I have no words to say. I don’t know what he was thinking,” Reyes told CNN affiliate Televisa. “He had his reasons for doing what he did and please don’t judge him. I only want the innocent children who died to forgive me.”

Asked by the reporter what she would say to the victim’s families, Reyes said: “Forgive me. Forgive my son. I know he had his reasons.”

When asked what possibly reason he could have had, Reyes said “to get closer to those children instead of paying attention to the other bad things, I have no words. I don’t know.”

[logi_cal869]

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4066906/posts?page=68#68

[Does so]

"Society condones ALL of it, always — liberal society most of all. Drugs".

The New Yorks Times self-censored information that said his grandmother wouldn't give him Marijuana

The Daily Mail, in typical full and early detail, noted:

"he hated his mother and grandmother, whom he told her did not let him smoke weed"

Just how pervasive are the effects of a "harmless" plant on those whose brains haven't matured to age 26?

[higgmeister]

You perpetuate a lie because, Bush?

That is like a Democrat has an excuse to tell lies because, Trump.

Why not just say that you think invading Iraq was wrong because you feel you were played a fool?

The truth is that the Bush administration didn't lie about WMDs, they were there, we just didn't have any reason putting false blame on Iraq for what Saudis did on 9/11.

[logi_cal869]

Here we go again.

I decline.

But if you have proof of WMDs that weren’t leftovers from the Iran/Iraq war era - including both munitions and manufacturing facilities - go ahead and post the images in-forum.

[higgmeister]

But if you have proof of WMDs that weren’t leftovers from the Iran/Iraq war era - including both munitions and manufacturing facilities - go ahead and post the images in-forum.

I get it now.   Only new WMDs are able to kill.   Old WMDs are perfectly safe.   Do you think the Kurds believe that?

[eastforker]

He used a debit card,not a credit card. He worked full time at Wendys, he lived with grandma didn’t pay rent.

[Reily]

You’re right they were there but not in the quantities thought. All ‘a priori’ analysis was, as all intelligence analysis is, educated guessing. Think of it like a non-invasive (no x-rays, etc. no energy into\onto patient) medical diagnosis - say a 1900s style medical exam. Gather limted evidence try to tie it together into a conclusion based on training\education & experience - in short “educated guessing “!

[logi_cal869]

Old WMDs are perfectly safe.

There's this little place called Umatilla. You may not have heard about it or the Chemical Weapons Destruction Facility, one of 8 such locations across the U.S.

You apparently also never heard of the Chemical Stockpile Emergency Preparedness Program (CSEPP).

Thus, you probably don't know (or are in denial) of the genesis of CSEPP.

Permit me to elaborate and save you the 15 seconds of effort on your part:

CSEPP was created to address the risk posed by the U.S. stockpile of chemical weapons.

Insofar as domestic incidence of the "risks" (i.e., leakage):

BLUE GRASS ARMY DEPOT, Ky. - The M55 rocket reported leaking GB (Sarin) agent vapor within its shipping and firing tube yesterday has been overpacked into a leak proof stainless steel container.

This event was unintentionally overstated in the initial news release headline yesterday as an accident. There was no accident. Chemical Activity workers discovered the leaking rocket during routine monitoring actions in the chemical weapons stockpile. This leaking rocket is the third leaking munition discovered in 2008, which falls within the normal range of leaking munitions for the stockpile.

Leaking Chemical Agent Rocket Overpacked at Depot

Encapsulated within special steel cases locked away in a remote storage igloo at this desert base are 784 reasons why the United States wants to destroy its aging chemical weapon stockpile.

Tooele Army Depot has 784 chemical arms that are leaking deadly nerve gas, Army officials say. Among them are a variety of bombs, land mines and projectiles made between the 1940s and the late 1960s. But most of the leaky weapons are old M55 rockets, said Tooele Public Affairs Officer Susan Voss.

Ironically the M55s could no longer be used in combat because the Army now lacks any device to fire them, Voss said. The M55s' only potential threat now is against friendly troops because of their leaking.

784 NERVE GAS WEAPONS LEAKING, ARMY SAYS

Chemical weapons age. Chemical weapons leak. Old chemical weapons are more dangerous to their host than to the enemy.

Thus facilities must be maintained for the unforeseen rate of attrition.

The US Army acknowledged as much publicly in the wake of the Chemical Weapons Convention, which the US was happy to be party to for the reasons cited.

Once again, I cite what you conveniently ignored:

The CIA had issued fierce warnings before the war: Saddam's regime was churning out poison gases and lethal germs, and was racing to build a nuclear bomb. President George W. Bush had launched the war to rid the world of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. But postwar searches found no such arms, no such threat. And week by week, as CIA-led weapons hunters based at Slayer dashed back and forth across the baking desert, the doubts and disappointments grew more palpable. Few believed all the prewar warnings were 100 percent accurate; intelligence rarely was. But inside the smoky HVT Bar, in beach chairs along the lakeside, even back in the cubicles at Langley, some CIA officers quietly began voicing darker suspicions. How much of the intelligence was wrong?

Furthermore, the Senate Intelligence Committee's bipartisan Final Phase II Reports on Prewar Iraq Intelligence cites the following:

> Statements by the President and Vice President prior to the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq’s chemical weapons production capability and activities did not reflect the intelligence community’s uncertainties as to whether such production was ongoing.

> The Secretary of Defense’s statement that the Iraqi government operated underground WMD facilities that were not vulnerable to conventional airstrikes because they were underground and deeply buried was not substantiated by available intelligence information.

I don't know why this "Iraq WMD" BS still gets passed around by so-called Conservatives, but go ahead: Post your evidence in forum.

(my 2nd challenge)

Better yet:

Why don't you post a vanity dedicated to all the Iraq war WMD evidence which supported the pre-war propaganda?

[Jane Austen]

Interesting book.

[M Kehoe]

Hi.

“but demanded “I don’t want them calling him a monster.” Salvador Ramos Sr. told the Daily Beast on Thursday”

Okay Salvador, I won’t call him a monster.

I will call him, Legion. Comprende?

Go and reproduce asexually, Salvador.

5.56mm

[higgmeister]

So you admit that the WMDs that were still in Iraq were even more dangerous.   Thanks for the clarification.

[logi_cal869]

Pathetic, Strawmeister.

[higgmeister]

Why not say we had no business getting involved in Iraq when we had no national security concerns there, instead of harping on claims we were lied to?

I know and understand that every President will lie to us when necessary.   I want our President to lie when national security interests warrant it.

President Eisenhower said we didn't have spy planes watching the USSR.   I wouldn't expect anything else.

When I was an Airman in Sacramento and picked up the shout down order wire to, like an idiot, ask the Control Tower if the SR-71 flew in the day before, do you think they told me the truth.   No, the controller on duty jumped down my throat and asked who I was.   I told him I was Airman higgmeister ("hm" prosign) from the Tech Control Facility.   The Controller told me they are not allowed to give that kind of information and slammed the handset down.

The President lied to us, whoopy doop.

[logi_cal869]

GW was a traitor on multiple counts.

The P3 crew should all have been courts martialed and their commander reassigned.

Agreed on the other, but I will forever tie the lies around his neck.

[NobleFree]

“Just how pervasive are the effects of a “harmless” plant on those whose brains haven’t matured”

Marijuana is illegal in Texas - demonstrating once again how prohibitions drive substances into the black market beyond the reach of effective age restrictions.

[higgmeister]

Lockheed P-3 Orion crew?

[logi_cal869]

https://trontaiwan.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/the-hainan-island-incident-ten-years-later/

[Does so]

No mention of George Tenet (D-CIA), regrettable “holdover” from Slick Willy?

[MayflowerMadam]

“easiest way is buy off the street”

And that is why adding one more gun law to the existing laws won’ make a whit of difference. Killers can ALWAYS get a gun, no matter what.

[MayflowerMadam]

All good ideas.

OR having America return to God and no drastic measures would be needed. Too much evil now.