Posted on 05/26/2022 12:05:57 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
“All Pentagon loss estimates are based on Ukrainian reported data.”
And you know this, how?
Believe me, we have our own internal sources. We don’t rely so much on what others tell us.
While technically not murder it is tantamount to it. Read Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky,
“You’re still triggered and following me around.”
You wish.
I seem to recall YOU posting a comment to ME that was not in response to something I had sent you.
But, generally, I don’t pay much attention as to whom the poster is, unless the comment to which I’m replying is moronic enough for me to ask myself, “What idiot wrote this?”
“I read that the Russians annually spend $80 billion on defense. If they are burning up $1 billion per day, they’re operating in the red now.”
I don’t think we can draw a direct equivalence. In most military budgets only a fraction goes to new hardware. Some goes to R&D. Some goes to pay or maintenance. In theory the Soviets bequeathed a lot of hardware to the present Russian government. (900,000 tanks in 1990. Probably includes some t-34’s that couldn’t run no mater what.) They’ve apparently burned through a lot of the upgraded stuff by using it with poor or non-existent doctrine. They’ve done really poorly at combined arms. An American tank group would be surrounded by ground forces. A few attack helicopters and drones would be overhead to keep the missile teams away, or fire back the moment they pop up. The Russians have failed miserably at this. Their logistics has been laughable. As one wag put it, this multiple angle tank attack was a nostalgia attack probably ordered just as we saw it develop by Putin himself. It’s telling that apparently nobody said, “Uhm, really bad idea!” An analyst pointed out they’ve never done anything this stupid in Syria or even Afghanistan. Not even briefing the soldiers on the first day was also a huge mistake. They’d stop at houses and ask for directions and some were shocked some that they were in Ukraine and some that they weren’t being greeted as the liberators as they thought they’d be. But as someone pointed out, the Russians have a huge reserve of hardware to burn through and they won’t stop until they can’t go on. My own take is Putin is a gambler and he’s willing to raise the stakes because he’s across the table from a doddering idiot. It would be too humiliating to lose to someone like Biden.
“Read Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky.”
I read it in high school. A very sobering novel.
or our children
Lloyd Austin and his cronies are not trustworthy.
I suspect the damage the Ukrainian military is doing is higher, but as they say...........its a good start.
“I don’t think we can draw a direct equivalence.”
Perhaps we can.
I’m assuming the $80 billion annual figure is what is budgeted, or what is spent under normal conditions. So, that would go toward buying new parts, ammo, obtaining supplies, fuel, food for the troops, salaries and wages, etc. The normal operating expenses of a military under normal conditions.
The war started 55 days into the year. So, roughly $220 million/day. That means on the day the invasion began, Russia had already spent $12.1 billion of its annual defense budget, leaving $67.9 billion to fund the military for the rest of the year.
The war has been going on 90 days. So, by sometime in early May they had blown through their budget.
That’s all I’m saying.
I’m not arguing. Just discussing. When a war starts it’s like a Democratic party free-for-all. They throw out the budget and start printing money. Although they developed a mind binding 600-billion-dollar fund in foreign currency to spend on the war, most of that was in foreign banks and has been seized. Putin signed an order forcing all companies to turn over 80% of their foreign money and converted it to rubles. Although the apparent value of the ruble is an astonishing 59 to the dollar, better than it was before the war, nobody wants them and the prices in Russia for items like food have skyrocketed. So, the ruble is like monopoly money. But the Soviet Union basically had no money. This isn’t a huge problem when somebody points a gun at you and says, “build weapons.” The Russians will be able to keep this up for a long, long time. They’re used to deprivation.
Incidentally, at least a million draft age or highly educated Russians have left the country and likely will not come back. The forty thousand of so that have been kidnapped from Ukraine and taken to the far east of Russia won’t make up for the demographic loss. Even before the war the bulk of Russian youths, seventy percent or so, said they’d like to immigrate out of Russia. This is the problem of the corruption where there are no jobs because the money that would have been invested and caused jobs, has instead been sunk in yachts and palaces in foreign lands for the oligarchs.
Is this the same Pentagon that assured China that President Trump would not be allowed to respond to a threat? That went along with a plan that left $85 Billion dollars in military equipment in Afghanistan? They can countermand President Trump, but have to follow Biteme and the orders from his teenage handlers?
Are you an interventionist?
Yeah, the Russian people have been getting screwed by their leaders for hundreds of years.
I think it was in Pasternak’s “Doctor Zhivago,” where he was asked (it’s been years since I read it, so I may be off on the character) about all the hardships, (and I’m paraphrasing here): “How do you put up with this?” He answered, “We endure.”
The Putin cult is entertaining....lol
Yes sir, Joe Kent will be my Rep in Congress God willing. The traitor beotch JH Buttler is spending a lot of money with fliers. I don’t know how much it costs to have a Town Hall powered by Zoom in the Vancouver area. Her base is here in Lewis County, yet she spends her time cozying up to the Libtards close to Oregon instead.
Ping for your stats.
$40 Billion is $35 Billion in graft, 10 for Ukraine and their graft.
Why are you so excited about intervening in war after war? Tell me the last war the US was part of, and how that worked out? Since the WOT, ended up with ISIS/ISIL, Turkey feeling its oats, China stronger by the day, but we expended some money in defeat. We simply have not won a war since Grenada, before that it was WW 2.
As it is, even the supposedly frontline Russian weapons, tanks, IFVs, and other equipment from current inventory now being lost or expended in Ukraine are often in bad shape. Worse, such materiel is irreplaceable due to sanctions that deny spare parts, computer chips, optical sensors, and other essential components.
At best, Russia will win enough to declare a victory over Ukraine and a cease fire. But with Western sanctions mostly continuing, Russia will be unable to rebuild her military and will have to accept the strategic defeat of NATO being revitalized, expanded, and reequipped.
Within a few years at most, Putin will be gone and a rebuilt and Western armed Ukraine will demand a permanent peace settlement on her preferred terms from a weakened and militarily inferior Russia. That assumes Russia continues as a unitary state and does not in the meantime fracture or fall into civil war and simply yield up what it taken from Ukraine.
Ukraine’s original and losses. ? I usual look for multiple sources when confirming numbers. It’s the engineer and historian in me.
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