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The New Land Yacht Aiming to Break a Land Speed Record
MSN.com ^ | 22 May 2022 | Ryan Erik King

Posted on 05/23/2022 3:53:09 AM PDT by zeestephen

Emirates Team New Zealand, the America's Cup-winning sailing team, has launched a land yacht to attempt to break the wind-powered land speed record later this year...The current wind-powered land speed is 126.1 mph (202.9 km/h), set in 2009...Emirates Team New Zealand and the Horonuku are expected to make their record attempt in August on Lake Gairdner, a salt lake in South Australia...Video included

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The Horonuku is designed to go 155 mph.

What am I not understanding here?

How do you go 155 mph unless the wind is blowing 155 mph?

1 posted on 05/23/2022 3:53:09 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

They may be taking advantage of some geography. In a town I used to live in, Spruce Grove, it could be a light breeze from the west. However, Spruce Grove sat in a slight valley which funnelled the wind into a more narrow space and the force of the wind increased.

Maybe something like that


2 posted on 05/23/2022 3:55:50 AM PDT by Jonty30 (I did not shoot the burglar. I pointed a laser dot on his head and let the cats do the rest. )
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To: zeestephen

Iceboats have been sailing multiples of the wind speed for over a century. It’s possible because of the lack of friction between the ice and the runner blades.

America’s Cup boats on hydrofoils also sail faster than the wind. A lot of catamarans can do it also.

What the sails on any of the above sense is not the “true” ambient wind, but the “apparent wind” which is the addition of the “true” wind and the vessel’s forward speed. The faster you go, the faster you go....


3 posted on 05/23/2022 4:02:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jonty30

See above, and this video below.

Ice Yachting - The fun and fear of 100kph

Feb 22, 2019
Capable of more than four times the wind speed a DN ice yacht can reach 100kph and in a fleet of 50 boats the closing speeds are both alarming and intoxicating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE8mCZOmrEo&ab_channel=TheWorldSailingShow


4 posted on 05/23/2022 4:04:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: zeestephen

Rocket Launch
31,393 views Mar 6, 2014

After a 10 year restoration by members of the North Shrewsbury Ice Boat & Yacht Club in Red Bank, NJ, and after nearly a 100 year absence from the ice, the 50ft long ice yacht, the ROCKET is sailed on the Hudson River on March 1, 2014.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzf-jeKhk4Q&ab_channel=ebrattlof


5 posted on 05/23/2022 4:07:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: zeestephen
How do you go 155 mph unless the wind is blowing 155 mph?

Sailboats like the America's Cup hydrofoils, iceboats, and the iceboat on wheels land yacht, can all go faster than the prevailing wind by using the sail as a wing. Wind blowing around the the sail produces lift just like an airplane wing, but because the sail sticks straight up, the 'lift' generated pulls the boat forward.

They can only make these high speeds when sailing into a quartering wind.

None of the above can sail faster than the wind going directly downwind.

6 posted on 05/23/2022 4:11:07 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

Thanks for the explanation.

Kewl 😎!!

Just like a yo-yo!

https://youtu.be/jlA-z0du1Pg

😜


7 posted on 05/23/2022 4:17:02 AM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: zeestephen

> How do you go 155 mph unless the wind is blowing 155 mph? <

The wind is a force. When the wind is to your back, it will add to your speed. You will go faster and faster and faster until the wind force is balanced out by other forces. The balancing forces here are road friction and air resistance.

Maybe this will help. Think of the land yacht’s speed as money in the bank. You have nothing in the bank now. You decide to add $10 per day. You have $10 then $20, then $30 etc. That $10 deposit is not a limit. It just adds to what you already have.

Then you sign up for an automatic payment plan that costs $10 per day. Your deposit is now balanced out by a withdrawal. Your savings will no longer increase.


8 posted on 05/23/2022 4:17:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SaveFerris

Gee, thanks...I think?


9 posted on 05/23/2022 4:22:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: zeestephen

https://www.yachtingworld.com/americas-cup/americas-cup-boats-7-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-ac75s-129881

Americas Cup boats are reaching insane speeds now......


10 posted on 05/23/2022 4:24:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm Jimmy Crack Corn and I don't care)
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To: zeestephen

My thanks to everyone for their helpful explanations.

So - theoretically - a fully loaded super tanker could go 100 mph on a calm sea, if they could attach enough sail square footage to it?


11 posted on 05/23/2022 4:36:08 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Yo-Yo

I knew that...I just didn’t know how to explain it.
LOL!

Havin’ a hard time lately getting what’s in my mind to come out of my mouth and/or fingers


12 posted on 05/23/2022 4:41:34 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them)
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To: zeestephen
Tacking - They'll be somewhere between Close Hauled and Bean Reach.

When Running, you cannot go faster than the wind.

13 posted on 05/23/2022 4:48:20 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Leaning Right

not exactly. It’s a complex trigonometry and you need to read a sailing book.

If the wind is 25mph and you are traveling at 25 mph (in the same direction) you feel no wind, so no force.

That is why people in a hot air balloon feel no wind- they are moving WITH the wind.


14 posted on 05/23/2022 4:55:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K

> It’s a complex trigonometry... <

I agree that there is more to it than what I posted. But the bottom line is that the wind is a force. And most folks don’t really grasp what forces are all about. So I decided to just sketch out the basics, and leave it others to add the details if they wish.


15 posted on 05/23/2022 4:59:10 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Yo-Yo

It was the best I could do with yo-yo on short notice

😁

I like the song actually.

I think it was the Flip Wilson Show. I used to watch it as a kid.


16 posted on 05/23/2022 5:28:54 AM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Travis McGee

Worked for a guy in the 70s who was a champion on those and was in Sports Illustrated.


17 posted on 05/23/2022 2:49:13 PM PDT by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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