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To: BillyBoy
Tell ya what. Yeah, the character is butch lezbo, BUT, besides the look she sports, it's not being shoved down our throats. In fact, the character she plays is actually somewhat funny from time to time.

I'm annoyed there aren't more men on the bridge, there is that.

And so far, they aren't making all sorts of 'woke' points in the ending scenes. So far, for example, the theme to the last episode I watched was: Don't torture a kid, even for a whole society's benefit.

It really feels like TOS. I've been enjoying it.

Now if you want some REAL TOS experiences, go look up Star Trek Continues. There's a bunch of GENUINE old-school episodes.

153 posted on 07/27/2022 8:49:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz; PIF; fieldmarshaldj; TigerClaws
>> besides the look she sports, it's not being shoved down our throats. And so far, they aren't making all sorts of 'woke' points in the ending scenes. <<

Aside from the Real life Tranny with an Adam's apple playing a "non-binary" character on SNW, the "they/them" freak was introduced in the episode by making a statement about much society opresses them. Aside, from that the show itself announced the "special guest star" WEEKS in advance so they could pat themselves on the back for it (even though its not even "groundbreaking" by their OWN standards since STD did the exact SAME gimmick a few months earlier), so given those facts, I have to disagree with your argument that "it's not being shoved down our throats".

But yeah, I guess aside from all THAT, it's not woke.

Well, and also aside from Captain Pike's bridge crew consisting almost ENTIRELY of "strong" feminazi woman characters, including a butch lezbo type with a buzzcut serving as his helsman, it's not woke...

Oh! And aside from the flashback showing Jan. 6th Trump rioters caused World War III, it's not woke...

Also, aside from the "Only real life blind people should play blind characters" talking point from the producers (who then went out of their way to announce on social media that they ONLY auditioned ACTUAL blind actors for the role, no person with normal vision need apply), it's not woke...

And Anson Mount calling out non-existent "racist Star Wars fans" on social media like Twitter, it's not woke...

And previously white character Captain Robert April being race swapped and replaced with a bald bearded grizzled black dude, it's not woke...

And previously white character Lt. Kyle being race swapped and replaced with a gay asian man, it's not woke...

AND finally (although I probably forgot several other examples), previously 100% straight character Nurse Chapel now being "openly bisexual", it's DEFINITELY not woke!

>> It really feels like TOS. I've been enjoying it. <<

I haven't even gotten into the actual NON-woke problems I have with the show supposedly being "like TOS", including the ridiculous haircuts (Pike's pompadour, Spock's weird freakishly long sideburns, etc.), the casting of fugly fake Uhura (who shouldn't even BE at the Enterprise in this time period, most likely she'd still be in Starfleet Academy during the Pike era), and the storyline about horndog Spock lusting after T'Pring, etc., etc. There's no way I can buy any of this taking place in the same universe as TOS. NOPE!

>> Now if you want some REAL TOS experiences, go look up Star Trek Continues. There's a bunch of GENUINE old-school episodes. <<

I've seen STC, very good fan series. But if I want a current TV that is a geninue sucessor to TOS, I'll stick with The Orville, thank you very much. Ironically its also being accused of having "gone woke" this season, but having seen every episode, I can safely say the "non-woke" SNW is still FAR more woke (see all the above examples), than The Orville has ever been, or will ever be.

But hey, have fun with Strange New Haircuts. I've got my Orville! :-)

158 posted on 08/05/2022 11:36:57 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Build Biden Better.)
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