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Russia could strike back at the West by calling on its network of white-supremacist groups to commit terror attacks there, analysts warn
Business Insider ^ | 5/14/22 | Tom Porter

Posted on 05/14/2022 5:46:23 PM PDT by JonPreston

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To: JonPreston

“No answer? I’ll ask again; “Tell us the last in progress war that resolved without peace talks first starting.””

Nice try. You changed the subject.

You said you wanted peace, but then started putting conditions and qualifiers on the peace. I called you out on that, saying you don’t want PEACE, but you want YOUR peace. Then to avoid responding to my argument you trot out a red herring question about “when was the last in progress war resolved” without peace talks. It is totally beside the point. The surest way to an immediate peace would be for the invader (Russia) to withdraw all its troops from the invaded (Ukraine), UNCONDITIONALLY. Unconditionally means without conditions or qualifiers, which YOU introduced into the equation.


61 posted on 05/14/2022 7:02:00 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
but then started putting conditions and qualifiers

Such as?

62 posted on 05/14/2022 7:04:25 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: JonPreston
hey (the Russians) would make a bid to dos something like this would be possible if they had the contacts to do it. But, nothing would ever come from it since they do not have the connections and no one would work for Russia. The people who also would believe this are the same people who are posting on this board that the Russians are winning.
63 posted on 05/14/2022 7:06:28 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: JonPreston

Yep, just as soon as I learn Russian so I can understand what they’re saying.

Unless they wanna learn to speak redneck.


64 posted on 05/14/2022 7:21:31 PM PDT by moovova
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To: JonPreston

“...Chris Chivvis, who served as the National Security Council’s intelligence officer for Europe from 2018 to 2021...”

Is he one of the 51 intelligence officers who said Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation, or was he one of the intelligence officers who said the Clinton/Steele dossier was real?


65 posted on 05/14/2022 7:21:33 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: JonPreston

Russia will unleash the FBI!


66 posted on 05/14/2022 7:25:24 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: JonPreston

The left always accuses conservatives of what they are doing or plan to do.


67 posted on 05/14/2022 7:30:01 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness. )
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To: JonPreston

Just who are these white supremacist groups? The one that got all the attention in 2020 had a black president. As a matter of fact the same guy was inside the Congress on Jan 6.


68 posted on 05/14/2022 7:30:15 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Didn’t know Dukie was still around selling his hatred wares.

If he’s pushing Putin’s praise and white supremacism then he’s got a small audience indeed. IMHO.


69 posted on 05/14/2022 7:32:01 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Fu%k the Ballot box. Now the Cartridge Box)
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To: JonPreston

“Such as?”

Oh, for God’s sake.

You: The Peace contingent here on FR doesn’t dance in blood, quite the opposite.
Me: A real “Peace” contingent would have criticized Russia for invading Ukraine in the first place.
You: I did, but rather than mindlessly cheering on war, I want peace. That’s something no one in Washington DC seems to want, and it’s lost totally on the blood dancers.
Me: Then you would agree that the surest way to peace would be for Russia to withdraw all its forces from Ukraine right now.
You: Sure, once Biden, Zelenskyy and Putin agree to peace talks.

CONDITIONS! Besides, there have already been negotiations, but they went nowhere. Still, you are insisting on them and now to include Biden! CONDITIONS!

Me: You just outed yourself (not that you hadn’t already). You only want peace on YOUR terms, a peace that favors YOUR side (Russia). So, you really don’t want PEACE, you want YOUR peace. Got it.
You: Tell us the last in progress war that resolved without peace talks first starting.
Me: Don’t change the subject. You don’t want PEACE, you want YOUR peace. A real peace seeker would recognize that the surest way to peace would be if the invader (Russia) withdrew all its troops from the invaded country (Ukraine), UNCONDITIONALLY! But, you don’t accept that, because you are applying conditions to a peace, conditions that only benefit YOUR side.

You know the surest way to peace would be for Russia to withdraw all its forces immediately. But you don’t want that! You want Russia to be rewarded (i.e., gain something)for starting the invasion, or else you’d agree with an immediate withdrawal. You don’t so much want peace as you want Russia to gain. You’ve been outed.


70 posted on 05/14/2022 7:32:18 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Not one condition in your post, just the ranting of an angry, old man. Please don't go Biden on us.

People of good will agree to talks, negotiate a cease fire, and then move forward from there. Blood dancers, on the other hand, obfuscate and ultimately celebrate death. It's an unbecoming look especially given the massive problems America faces.

71 posted on 05/14/2022 7:41:25 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: JonPreston

TRASH

from the Business Insider

72 posted on 05/14/2022 7:43:05 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: JonPreston

Pure BS!


73 posted on 05/14/2022 7:43:54 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: JonPreston
..... Today was the beginning of what is to come before the election ...... Not Gonna be Pretty folks ......

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74 posted on 05/14/2022 7:45:02 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: JonPreston
Never wrestle with a pig John, especially one as dumb as 06.

Fwiw...there were at least two American white supremacists from Texas fighting in Ukraine alongside their Nazi bretheren in the East. One of them took a face full of DPR shrapnel and is now blind.

There's a lesson in there somewhere for Miss Piggy.


75 posted on 05/14/2022 7:50:15 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: JonPreston

A coverup of the attacks by the disgruntled Ukrainian Nazis? I heard that the Banderites are disappointed over the fact that NATO is not starting a war to free the Azov regiment from Azovstal plant. The fate of the other units getting killed by the thousands in Donbas is of little interest for some reason.


76 posted on 05/14/2022 8:05:57 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: JonPreston

The propaganda is getting really stupid now - which means it will work exactly as intended on the statist-minded leftists.


77 posted on 05/14/2022 8:10:16 PM PDT by PGR88
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A former US intelligence official ...

Let's hope this person is a 'former' because he was fired for being a total nutcase.

78 posted on 05/14/2022 8:10:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (King Biden of MAAH (Make America A Hellhole) ||| Pray for the MAGA King's Return.)
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To: JonPreston

I’m sure they’ll point to todays shooting as proof


79 posted on 05/14/2022 9:17:55 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: JonPreston

yes its crazy talk, but it is very likely going to be (already is) official narrative in that alphabet place too.

dissent = russian disinfo = crime.

we are very close. they are getting all the regs and procedures in place. this has been described in years past as building a turnkey totaltarian state. we are close to the point where the lock casing is being fitted and the key is already getting some tests (see the canada trucker financial actions).


80 posted on 05/14/2022 9:34:38 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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