Posted on 05/09/2022 6:26:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
Several U.S. Navy personnel who served aboard the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) say they encountered a mysterious, orb-shaped flying object in 2004 while on duty off the eastern coast of the United States. Nearly two decades later, the incident still defies explanation.
Witnesses who were on the nuclear-powered Nimitz-class supercarrier the night of the incident describe seeing a 20 to 40-foot wide luminous round object, which suddenly appeared and began to hover over the ship’s flight deck.
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THE USS RONALD REAGAN UAP ENCOUNTER
During The Debrief’s ongoing investigation, we have identified and interviewed five witnesses who were aboard the USS Reagan during the timeframe of the incident, and who were all able to provide firsthand accounts of having witnessed the UAP. As part of this process, verification of military service was completed using DD-214 military separations documents, the official 2004 USS Ronald Reagan cruise book, and corroborating witness statements.
Although multiple interviews and record checks were conducted, none of the witnesses we spoke with were able to remember the specific date of the encounter.
UAP WITNESS 1
Karol Olesiak was a 3rd class petty officer and Quartermaster on the Ronald Reagan at the time of the incident. His job involved navigation of the ship, working from the main bridge at the navigation table. He was also responsible for the USS Reagan’s official ship logbook during the encounter.
On the day of the UAP event, Karol was Quartermaster of the Watch (QMOW) during the 8:00 PM-12:00 AM time frame. This duty required him to report to the main bridge navigation table and involved coordination of the maneuvering of the vessel.
Olesiak told The Debrief that when he arrived to relieve the previous watch that evening, the outgoing Quartermaster of the Watch indicated something was already going on at that time, though the individual offered no additional information. However, it soon became apparent to Olesiak that something was happening outside above the flight deck.
“I’m pretty sure ‘it’ was there,” Olesiak said. “And they were like, ‘I don’t know what that is. I don’t care.’ You know what I mean? Like they had an attitude like ‘I’m going to my rack. I don’t care. … don’t even bother me about this shit’… So this ‘thing’ is there, the entirety of my watch and because the officers are ignoring it, I’m forced to ignore it.”
Olesiak emphasized that everyone was working 16-hour shifts and unless an issue was life-threatening most problems were prioritized. He stated that his prior training in boot camp indoctrinated him to not question orders. The officer of the watch continued normal bridge operations, he said. Olesiak said he saw a large round and orange-colored glowing object with a fiery surface hovering about 100 feet above the flight deck. He said he viewed this object directly through the windows on the bridge at eye level. Olesiak says the surface of the object reminded him of biblical descriptions of the “burning bush”.
“In the Eastern Orthodox church, they explain the burning Bush as unburnt energy,” Olesiak mused. “When you see it, you are entranced by the novelty of it. You’ve never seen it before. Right? You’ve never seen negative energy… but it’s there. You don’t know what it is, the experience of seeing something you haven’t seen before.”
Olesiak pointed out that the Officer Of the Watch (OOW) and the Conning Officer on the bridge were not alarmed by the object. They continued working as if nothing unusual was going on. When asked to clarify why he did not report his sighting, Olesiak stated that his training required him to defer to senior officers. Since they had observed it and were not reacting, likewise it was his responsibility to stay on task. “It’s a problem when somebody says that it’s a problem. It’s a problem when somebody tells you that it’s a problem.”, He stated. Karol said he was surprised aircraft operations continued.
“And it’s watching the planes, it’s watching the planes get launched,” he said. “For me, even though I’d never seen it before, I thought that this was natural and that, you know, that this was an organic thing that we would, maybe another form of life, maybe, but something we would figure out in the future”
Karol only viewed the object from his position on the bridge. He does not remember seeing the object arrive, or move in any way other than match the speed of the ship which he said was ahead at 22 knots based on flight ops. He believes that the object was in the same location during the entirety of his four-hour watch.
Olesiak first wrote about the sighting on his website in October 2021 (UAP investigator Keith Basterfield brought this article to the attention of Dave Beaty for this report). You can also hear more from Karol Olesiak in this video interview with Dave Beaty (below):
(Excerpt) Read more at thedebrief.org ...
I agree although, judging by their freakish actions, angels have capabilities to “use” technology that are quite foreign to our understanding.
It’s been over fifty years since Roswell. UFO phenomena has spread across time and the world. People are as ready as they ever will be.
If I believed, my money is it’s nefarious.
Alas, we are not monkeys and can reason. Maybe not wisely but the ability is there.
Not disputing that there may be intelligent life among the stars but a few flashing lights aren’t convincing.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
The first estate of the angels might be a huge hint regarding hyper-dimensional reality, from which fallen angels stepped in order to be 'gods' to humankind and take wives of the daughters of men.
“Much of the abduction discussion has the same basic cast of characters (short and tall grays, mantids on rare occasions).”
The problem is that this does not cover all of the abductions—and definitely not all of the human contact cases.
Fascinating reading is the Rosales “Humanoid Encounters” series of books.
This is the first of the series:
https://www.amazon.com/Humanoid-Encounters-AD-1899-Others-amongst/dp/1542722055
Occam’s Razor is useless with this stuff—it is just too complex and there is just too much of it.
Are the encounter accounts in that book anecdotal accounts, stories that have been passed down by family, etc., OR have they been tested for reliability (multiple accounts of same occurrence, etc.)?
There have been many, many accounts throughout the years that need to be held in light regard (however much they might be true) if only because there is no way of measuring or attesting their accuracy/reliability.
The accounts described by Mack, Hopkins, and David Jacobs are the result of hypnotic regression of certain individuals who have been (as much as possible) screened for credibility. And even then they need to be taken with a huge grain of salt.
The most reliable accounts of course are those like the Ariel School account in Zimbabwe and the Westall HS account in Australia. In both of these accounts, there were multiple witnesses whose stories have stood the test of time.
In the accounts obtained via hypnotic regression, Mack, Hopkins, and Jacobs all leave open the possibility that the contact experiences might have been imagined or hallucinated (even when there was significant PTSD).
Terence McKenna has an interesting approach in evaluating “one off” anecdotes.
His argument—if the person “could not imagine it” based on their exposure to mass media and entertainment it is far more interesting and likely to be valid.
So—many of the most interesting cases are true “firsts”, no matter how bizarre they may appear and even if there are few repeats.
It is the opposite approach to Occam’s Razor, which is the method the Western mind has been trained to use for analysis.
I agree with the Terence McKenna approach to some degree but still look at this subject very skeptically because of its "woo-woo" quality.
It was all much more comfortable when everything was about aliens in nuts and bolts spaceships. When it veered off into quantum physics, consciousness, and demons, it became increasingly difficult to fathom.;-)
That said, we have to follow the evidence wherever it leads. But more than ever we need to test the evidence before following it.
Good luck testing evidence.
One purpose of a lot of this stuff seems to be to subvert the current human scientific method and hint at new paradigms for understanding.
(That has been the view taken by McKenna, Vallee, John Mack and Carl Jung, among others.)
Imho it is better to embrace the mystery and not try to insist on closure.
That is exactly the opposite of what governments and scientists do.
Though John Mack was IMHO kind of naive in his approach to this matter, even he carefully examined his "clients" to weed out those who he felt were either fabricating the evidence or having psychotic experiences.
The Chris Bledsoe contacts are a great case in point. Bledsoe's experiences have been confirmed by many other people, some of which are UFOlogists and former government agents who were curious about his case.
I am still unsure what the hell is going on with Bledsoe, but there are plenty of corroborating accounts to back up his stories.
What Mack was actually doing was “testing the people” to weed out obvious kooks and liars—so I guess that is a form of testing the evidence.
However, he was totally baffled by the folks he did believe.
When confronted with contradictory claims (”aliens are good” vs “aliens are bad” for example) he had no real basis to decide either way, and no real criteria to figure out how to decide.
To me the main message of all this is that homo sapiens need to lose the arrogance that “this culture has figured it out”.
We haven’t figured out squat imho.
We may have to survive a million years to get even close....easier said than done....
And, yes, Mack seems to have ended up in the aliens are not a threat camp.
I think he was wrong to some degree (depending, as you say, on which "alien" group we are dealing with).
As an aside, I think the government has already made its "disclosure." They don't know what "it" is but "it" is already here...and it isn't Russia, China, or us.
I think humanity is about to enter a new paradigm that has not been imagined and may not have been even capable of being imagined.
The one part of “disclosure” that the US government has refused to make is its own history of disinformation, infiltration of UFO groups, and silence and intimidation of witnesses in the name of “national security”.
That is very real—and they continue to play “hide the ball”.
Congress should be focusing on that issue rather than chasing phantoms they will never understand anyway.
But at least the Pentagon and the government have "constructively" admitted these things exist and that they are not ours or Russian/Chinese. That's a step.
Folks on this thread and in the country as a whole should get prepared for what's coming. It's gonna rock the world and all reality.
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