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Russian tank ace, 25, crowned world champion in international war games contest is killed after Putin sends him into real war in Ukraine
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 7 May 2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 05/07/2022 6:38:33 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: RedMonqey

Yeah, I want the Russians to get smashed, but celebrating the death of an individual soldier is different.


21 posted on 05/07/2022 7:04:17 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: snoringbear

Abrams won’t go too far in Eastern Europe due to poor terrain and enormous weight. And it blow up just as good as any other tank when hit from above.


22 posted on 05/07/2022 7:04:18 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Dailymail is high level larping. It’s like Weekly World News coverage of Roswell.


23 posted on 05/07/2022 7:04:19 AM PDT by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain….)
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To: BipolarBob

“Have you seen The Pentagon Wars?”

Yes. But remember they had to make it funny, entertaining and dramatic. That all required so much exaggeration that little of what we saw was “real.” Nobody is, for example, going to cheat on a fire test. If they got caught, they’d go to prison.


24 posted on 05/07/2022 7:04:34 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I agree.


25 posted on 05/07/2022 7:05:20 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Russkie military, with all its bluster, isn’t as elite as once thought.Keep them body bags coming.


26 posted on 05/07/2022 7:05:34 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I liken this to the aces at the target range. They have the best weapons, perfectly clean, excellent working order and can shoot a knat off of a fly’s rear end at 500 yards.

But when the target shoots back, mother nature and fear set in. All that perfect shooting turns into spray and pray, or hiding, or running.

With regards to this Russian tank ace, the war games he was good at probably never had drones or hand held anti-tank weapons attacking him.

Nonetheless, RIP.


27 posted on 05/07/2022 7:08:50 AM PDT by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I truly think that the Battle Tank and conventional Aircraft Carrier are both obsolete in modern technology warfare.


28 posted on 05/07/2022 7:08:54 AM PDT by blackdog (Disinformer and Deplorable because I do my own thinking. )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Orc’s tank cutting edges have lost 2 prototype tanks and a tank ‘ace’ who got aced.

If aces get aced, then its easy to see why tankers would rather destroy their own tanks rather than face actual warfare where artillery strikes from nowhere blow them up real good.


29 posted on 05/07/2022 7:09:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“but celebrating the death of an individual soldier is different.”
True, but considering the murders of innocent women and children by Russki soldiers, does not generate much sympathy.


30 posted on 05/07/2022 7:10:09 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Oh! The drama. There is nothing that they print that you won’t believe. Even after you have been provably lied to repeatedly. Yet you dance, no questions asked, on every piece of propaganda they print. You should be embarrassed.


31 posted on 05/07/2022 7:10:58 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: snoringbear

>>> I’d like to see a Ukraine battalion of US style armored Calvary equipped with Abrams go up against Russian armored units.

The Russians would NEVER SEE the Abrams as they take out every single one of them.

If we paraded tanks into battle like they do, we would lose them all too.


32 posted on 05/07/2022 7:11:33 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Yep. One would think that the two wholesale slaughters of the twentieth century would have taught us something. I think about that when I walk past my little town’s Vietnam Memorial, and read the stories of the seven young men — nineteen or twenty years old—who didn’t come home.


33 posted on 05/07/2022 7:11:53 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: blackdog

The aircraft carrier and other surface ships are OK so long as they stay hundreds of miles offshore.


34 posted on 05/07/2022 7:12:10 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Gen.Blather

There is a tanker Chieftain video who tells the story of 20 Merkavas going up against the latest Orc ATM in huge ambush. Only one tank was lost, and one tank was hit 11 times.

He also makes the point that not one Merkava thought to pop smoke.


35 posted on 05/07/2022 7:13:32 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If the UK Daily Mail reports something it must be true. /sarc
36 posted on 05/07/2022 7:14:11 AM PDT by McGruff (We are stuck in the demolition phase of Build Back Better)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Intelligence and bravery are of negative value in the general population as far as governments are concerned. They prefer stupid and cowardly as the prefered traits in the perfect citizen.


37 posted on 05/07/2022 7:14:13 AM PDT by blackdog (Disinformer and Deplorable because I do my own thinking. )
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To: PIF

Karl Walled was funnier.


38 posted on 05/07/2022 7:14:51 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: cpdiii

Of those that have committed war crimes

The 64th has been pulled and is thought to be back inside Orc Land.

(50) War criminals identified: identification data of scouts of the Russian 64th Motorized Rifle Brigade Part 1
https://informnapalm.org/en/war-criminals-identified-personal-data-of-scouts-of-the-russian-64th-motorized-rifle-brigade/


39 posted on 05/07/2022 7:18:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

“There is a tanker Chieftain video who tells the story of 20 Merkavas going up against the latest Orc ATM in huge ambush. Only one tank was lost, and one tank was hit 11 times.”

I really like Chieftain’s work. I saw that video. The Merkava is probably one of the best tanks in the world and it is optimized for its environment. (As opposed to most US designs that have to perform equally well in all environments. That means more compromises when compared to something like the Merkava.) I think he made the point that probably none of the missiles were as good as what we’re giving the Ukrainians. Also, the British/Swedish system is even better. But his point about other failures is valid too. A tank without significant infantry and air cover to at least the range of current missiles is very vulnerable. The conclusion is, it’s not what you have but how you use it.


40 posted on 05/07/2022 7:21:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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