Bullshit fantasy you say? The mistake you made was ASSUMING I meant gravimetric energy density instead of volumetric energy density. Clearly if you READ the post, you would see I was talking VOLUMETRIC, because i was talking about the space a gas tank and engine takes vs the battery. Energy density is expressed in Wh per L usually.
My point is that currently a battery takes about 2x - 2.5x the space in a car as a gasoline tank, for a equivalent range. That is about 1/2 or so the volumetric density.
Yes, if you compare the WEIGHT per mile of range, a 20 gallon tank weighs roughly 160 lbs, while a battery of equivalent range might weigh 1600 lbs (per 100KW pack) or more (10x difference). BUT if you just compare the raw fuel (i.e. LiON storage vs gasoline, it’s more like 50x difference). But LiON converts almost 95-98% to motive force, while a ICE is “industry leading” if it gets 30-38%. Then combine that that 38% efficient engine only makes efficient use on a narrow power band (perhaps 2,000 rpm to 5,800) then you can see that *most* of the energy is given off as useless heat.
This is why an energy storage medium (i.e gasoline) that has a 50 to 100x gravimetric energy density can power a car to about the same range as an ICE with 20 gallon tank.
Here’s another way to think of it...I just paid 4.00$ a gallon to fuel up my tank on my 5.0 Ford Coyote engine in a 2017 Mustang GT. I spent 55 dollars (if it were completely empty i would have spent 64$). The range I get is 384 miles per tank.
Ok, so my friend as i mentioned earlier has a Tesla Model S. It has 402 Miles range. Let’s call it equal to my GT (give the GT a head start).
The model S has a 85KW battery pack that weighs 1,200 lbs. My friend pays .08 cents/KW hour (we live in Texas) when he recharges from home (cost to recharge = 8.5$ vs my 64$). Both cars can go about the same distance.
1,200 lbs battery vs 144 lbs gas tank + 600 lb engine + 275 lbs trans +++.
Oh, and the model s 0-60 time is (depending on type) somewhere between 2.4 and 3.5 seconds....Mustang GT (with Performance Pack) = 4.4
https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/tesla-0-60-mph-times/
https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/ford-0-60-mph-times/#accordion-47774
Tinker Bell and Unicorns are kicking your ass.
Facts are stubborn things. It makes no difference how much energy gasoline stores if when the rubber meets the road you get 10% of it.
You see it every day at the strip - some dude pulls up with an expensive build and monster HP and a sleeper car with better tires beats the hell out of him on time.
So, electric is FASTER, BETTER and CHEAPER.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/fastest-cars-0-60-mph?slide=6
Check out the top 10, and then find get the price of each car and compare.
But how can this be, if the Model S is running on Unicorn farts?
Dude, the world has changed. Get used to it.
I gotta say your ability to selectively view reality is second to none. Volumetric is a worthless comparison because the amount of energy needed to move a vehicle directly correlates with the weight. The bigger the battery the heavier the vehicle and the heavier the vehicle the more energy it takes to move it. Now tinker bell and unicorn farts will have to be the ultimate source of energy for battery vehicles if all of the fools plunge us into an electric vehicle transport system BECAUSE the USA does not have the generation capacity to produce the power to charge and keep charging those batteries so hence wind ie unicorn farts and rainbows ie solar. Neither of which is reliable or economical if you take away the government distortion of the marketplace. Plus when I Google ev efficiency I get 85 -90 not 98%
So let’s do an experiment. I’ll drive to Palm Beach again for the 4th of July holiday. I’ll mostly keep to the speed limit because the counties in south ga consider drivers on the interstate a primary source of revenue not because I have any great respect for the logic of the current speed limit. I’ll get there in less than 10 hours maybe as little as 9 depending on the traffic. I’ll have the air conditioning blasting away and I’ll travel with my family and they don’t travel light. So you load up your EV and drive on a 620 mile trip withe the air on full and you vehicle packed to the limit and see how long it takes you.