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To: BereanBrain

I gotta say your ability to selectively view reality is second to none. Volumetric is a worthless comparison because the amount of energy needed to move a vehicle directly correlates with the weight. The bigger the battery the heavier the vehicle and the heavier the vehicle the more energy it takes to move it. Now tinker bell and unicorn farts will have to be the ultimate source of energy for battery vehicles if all of the fools plunge us into an electric vehicle transport system BECAUSE the USA does not have the generation capacity to produce the power to charge and keep charging those batteries so hence wind ie unicorn farts and rainbows ie solar. Neither of which is reliable or economical if you take away the government distortion of the marketplace. Plus when I Google ev efficiency I get 85 -90 not 98%

So let’s do an experiment. I’ll drive to Palm Beach again for the 4th of July holiday. I’ll mostly keep to the speed limit because the counties in south ga consider drivers on the interstate a primary source of revenue not because I have any great respect for the logic of the current speed limit. I’ll get there in less than 10 hours maybe as little as 9 depending on the traffic. I’ll have the air conditioning blasting away and I’ll travel with my family and they don’t travel light. So you load up your EV and drive on a 620 mile trip withe the air on full and you vehicle packed to the limit and see how long it takes you.


156 posted on 05/09/2022 3:06:07 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: from occupied ga

Ah, did you know that Tesla “re-invented” the AC to make it more efficient?

Too long Detroit did not care about efficiency (burn a 20W lamp for taillights, not use an efficient AC compressor, Power Steering Pump, Water Pump) because it was CHEAP, and after all, Power is free, right?

So, Yes, my friend WHO LIVES IN DALLAS where we have 60-90 100 degree days a year, runs his AC on high. What makes MORE of a difference at speed is wind resistance. In fact, even in an ICE car, if you have an efficient (scroll based, not rotary) AC pump, you will get LESS MPG by rolling your windows down and driving 65 MPH than with the AC on.

You are UNEDUCATED on the power generation facility vs car usage.
As you may be aware, TESLA is the largest manufacturer of EVs.
They also have huge factories, using huge amounts of energy.
They also SELL Solar Arrays.
So, what if we totaled up ALL the energy consumed by TESLA vehicles during a year, and ADDED the total amount of energy consumed by the manufacturing plants, and COMPARED it to the amount of energy produced in a year by the TESLA solar panels that are installed and running?

https://youtu.be/WJOaTZmg4uM?t=699

BTW, this is a federal filled report. If someone falsifies it, they are going to JAIL.
Sarbanes-Oxley. Look it up.

Your arguments always go to

1) Corner Cases (I want to drive 9 hours nonstop)
2) Name Calling (Unicorn Farts)
3) Half-baked analysis

If you don’t like EVs, DON”T BUY THEM. It’s a free country.
if they don’t work GM, Ford, etc will go out of business which they should have already due to miss-management. (actually FORD is the only one of the majors who have not taken Gov bailouts).

IF you want an eye-opener, Tesla has ~1T market valuation. Some say it’s overpriced. ALL the other major car vendors have ~1T value as well, and yet they produce 95% of the vehicles on the planet. What Gives? Are investors just stupid?

Uh, no. The major vendors (put together as a group) have 2x,3x,5x Debt to their current revenue (not net, revenue). GM (mind you recently infused by serveral rounds of YOUR tax dollars) is still at 1.72 D/R https://finance.yahoo.com/news/debt-significant-obstacle-general-motorss-112224187.html

Debt to Rev Ratio. GM 1.72 Tesla .89

So, Tesla even though it is spending TENS of Billions in new factories AND battery production, is below 1.0....Think about that.

Just because you are electric does NOT mean success. Rivian. Lordstown Motors.
Between those two, Ford, Amazon, GM and others have LOST 20-30B$ at least.
Oh, and don’t forget the hydrogen pyramid scheme of Nickolai Motors.

Dude, there is plenty throw rocks about in EV without having to make shit up.


158 posted on 05/10/2022 11:30:30 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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