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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
More importantly, virtually nobody expected Ukraine to put up anything close to the fight they've put up.

Are you really that stupid, or just that sleazy?

Ukraine has no weapons.

All their weapons are coming from the USA and NATO.

It's a proxy war, but you are just too sleazy to acknowledge it.

24 posted on 05/06/2022 7:41:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The larger weapons supply started only AFTER Ukrainians beat the initial Russian invasion against what some thought all odds.

In the beginning FRussians were giddy about Russia breaking a record and conquering Kyiv in 3 days showing weak and degenerate America how it’s done.

Now they don’t like us to remember what they said before and pretend that this massive invasion was just a feint.


27 posted on 05/06/2022 7:48:42 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Ukraine has no weapons. All their weapons are coming from the USA and NATO.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. The Ukrainians are carrying AK-variant assault rifles, driving T-64/72 series tanks, and driving BTR/BRDM/BMP armored vehicles. Anyone who knows anything about arms knows we didn't provide them with all that. Apart from the stuff they manufacture themselves -- which they do -- the overwhelming majority of the weapons with which they are fighting are holdovers from their time in the Soviet Union/Red Army. Part of the dissolution agreement in 1991 was that they got to keep all the nonnuclear weapons on their soil. To say they "have no weapons" is sheer ignorance.

More importantly, none of what you said has anything to do with the point I made about the predictions for this war. Everyone knew what equipment the Ukrainians had before the war even started, and yet they all still predicted this war would be over in 72 hours. The flow of NATO supplies didn't even start arriving for weeks -- long after Ukraine supposedly would already have collapsed.

And of course, there's the issue of the Ukrainians actually fighting back and using those weapons properly, which again defied most expectations. We all saw in Afghanistan what happens when you give people a ton of weapons but they don't want to fight. Immediate collapse. That's was what most everyone -including Putin - thought would happen in Ukraine also.

Except it didn't.

28 posted on 05/06/2022 7:52:20 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin (Sounds like a lot of malarkey to bewhat is this )
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To: troll

you are just too sleazy
***trolls gonna troll, and EPU is acting like one


45 posted on 05/06/2022 8:21:48 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Ukraine has no weapons.

I'll presume you are just ignorant, and not just spewing Russian propaganda.

Ukraine has always had a very significant manufacturing and technology base. As one example the Moskva was built in Ukraine many years ago. And it was sunk by a missile system developed and built in Ukraine.

Ukraine used to sell armaments around the world. Its Stugna-P anti-tank missile was a popular export. Today you can see videos of Ukrainian soldiers using Stugna-P units built for export to destroy Russian tanks. Their customers in the middle east must be complaining about the slow deliveries now.

In the future many nations will want to buy the Ukrainian hardware that has proven effective.

67 posted on 05/06/2022 9:41:42 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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