Posted on 04/30/2022 4:39:19 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Little by little, local police forces are succumbing to leftist indoctrination, funded and advanced by federal taxpayer dollars. Here is what to look out for—and how to push back.
Local control of the police is vital to the preservation of American democracy. Police officers and sheriff’s deputies swear an oath not only to serve and protect their communities but also to uphold the U.S. Constitution. Ideally, the police should serve as guardians of public safety and as defenders against government tyranny. Leftist elites detest these safeguards of liberty. The woke oligarchs are the tyrannical faction the American founders had the foresight to protect us against by establishing a constitutional federal republic.
A central feature of any totalitarian regime—Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China—is a national police force under total control of the central government. Totalitarians nationalize the police not to control crime, but to control their citizens. This is what the leftist elites envision for America and they are working hard to make it happen. The rampant lawlessness, violence, and chaos that has engulfed our cities since the summer of 2020 directly results from their scheme. They want to create dysfunctional local police departments as a pretext to nationalize all law enforcement.
Policing in every major city is in crisis—the rule of law has collapsed, people are not safe, and the war on cops is escalating.
Let’s take a look at where we are, the current policies of the Democratic Party that got us here, the historical context of the Left’s assault on the police, and what we need to do to defeat them.
I’ve seen personally how leftist ideology and training have seeped into and undermined policing. But as a former police chief myself, I’ve also learned how to build a highly effective organization based on American values
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No. The police have done this to our police force. TPD’s big step to completely useless was when a tax hike “earmarked” (we all know where tax money really goes) for the police failed to pass. Then they announced they would be “reducing services”. They wanted to “show us” how important they are. The “thin blue line” mentality that police hold the world together did this. They don’t. They never have. They aren’t better than us.
The police force did that? Huh. Interesting. I don’t know what TPD is, but I’ll assume that the city government is all conservatives and were all pissed about that. They fired that dirty police chief, right?
Tucson. Nope the city council didn’t do crap. Cops run themselves in most cities. Standing against an “internal” police decision rarely has good results. Unless you’re lucky enough to catch them in a scandal.
Tucson? Isn’t the entire city government ultra liberals? Doesn’t the police chief serve largely at the pleasure of the mayor? Isn’t she a raging idiot libtard?
So the original point stands. Libtards are doing this to our local police forces.
One tip-off is what you describe is an absolutely classic commie/democrat shakedown tactic. You propose a tax to support the fire department. If you don’t get it, you close a fire department. Next time the public better do what you want.
Meanwhile they’re still buying golf courses and bringing in trannies to to local library to read to our kids.
This was LONG before her. That’s part of what I’m pointing out to you. Anybody who thinks our police problem started recently wasn’t paying any damned attention. It was the early 2000s when the tax failed. Heck let’s go back to the 90s when they switched our cops from blue to SS black... in June no less I felt bad for the cops on that. It just keeps going further and further back. Watch Serpico. Cops have NEVER been on our side, or really generally useful.
I have posted often that the reason all law enforcement should be turned over to the sheriff is that the sheriff is voted in by the citizens and is closely attuned to their needs. No other police force I know of is directly accountable to the public.
The exception to that would be very narrowly tasked special police such as the US Marshals, Secret Service, game wardens....
“Cops have NEVER been on our side, or really generally useful.” <-—I’m not debating or necessarily disagreeing with this.
This march through our institutions probably started 100 years ago. And it’s the commies doing the marching.
My point is that if we concede or start believing that the local police forces are useless then the commies will absolutely help us “fix” that.
Just between you and I, I’ll take a “useless” police force over a national police force any day.
It’s NOT the commies. It’s the cops themselves. Who fought to have crimes against cops prosecuted at a higher level than the equivalent crime against a civilian? Not commies, cops. Who fought for qualified immunity? Not commies, cops. Who created the Thin Blue Line that divides the world into cops and scum? Not commies, cops. Who tanks future cases when DAs go hard against police corruption? Not commies, cops.
I’m not saying anything about a national police force, which I don’t actually buy is happening. I’m point out that every single problem we have with police comes from them.
I assure you that it is the commies. They are on the march.
I assure you that a national police force is the plan. But hopefully we can stop that.
Here is a good rule of thumb:
“If it has happened before, it can happen again.” ~ Sarcazmo (Sarcazmo thinks)
Commies and national police forces have been quite common throughout history. Hell, it’s happening right now in many countries.
Not understanding this is not your fault. A lifetime in Tucson will do that to you. But you’re hanging out in the right place.
I won’t argue with you, but a couple of points:
In your favor, a study of the Constitution will teach you that like you, our founders were very much concerned that our country should be prevented from becoming an abusive police force or unfair justice system.
On the other hand, condemning all police is a serious mistake. While it is true that most police departments have failings, like the old saying about democracy...it isn’t perfect but it is a lot better than any of the alternatives.
Better to make corrections, adjustments and clean up as required.
I assure you this problem predates Karl Marx. It is NOT commies.
I don’t CARE if there’s a national police force in “the plan” hell we already have like FOUR national police forces (at least, just working the top of my head). And they’re just as completely useless as every other police force. What’s yes another one that does what they want and isn’t for the people?
Don’t be an insulting prick. This has nothing to do with where I live. Hell in this case YOU’RE the one lacking basic knowledge.
Except the police themselves stand AGAINST all those “corrections, adjustments and clean up”.
What’s the fastest way for a prosecutor to kill his career: go hard against corrupt cops. Who’s the first group to throw big lawyers to any cop busted for any kind of corruption: the union.
One bad apple spoils the barrel and the police across the country will do ANYTHING to protect their bad apples.
Back when standing police forces were first being invented a lot of people thought it was the end of civilization. How could things be so bad that we actually employed people for the sole purpose of snooping on citizens and putting them in jail. Turns out, they were right. It’s a job that does not draw the best people, or draw the best out of the people who have it.
You sound emotional. Was it something I said?
Was it the “goose stepping pedophile” moniker? That one usually winds the lefties up.
Man ‘ol Sarcazmo can sniff ‘em out.
Have a good day.
Oh look you’re just a troll. OK well, now I know.
Only you sniffed out is yourself.
OK, enough ranting.
Give us the solution. Cure the problem by Monday.
So far you offer none.
I will give you a clue. Electing liberal mayors and city councilmen/women must be ended. They are the people who hire the chiefs and who finance the departments.
We must also stop persons like Soros from financing local elections. For instance I throw all requests for donations to politicians outside my state. into the trash. Locals should elect those whom they wish.
All electronic voting machines should be outlawed. Paper ballots only and those to be kept for inspection when and if questions arise.
The problem is not the police. The problem is the corruption at all levels in government, from your local courthouse all the way to the president of the United States of America.
In the north GA foothills county we are moving to the Feds aren’t welcome. The sheriff is the law.
Remember that Somali cop in Minneapolis who shot that innocent Australian woman? Imagine a few thousand more like him.
I don’t think there is one. Certainly not a fast one. This goes to a basic core problem of group dynamics. This isn’t liberal vs conservative. This is how things work, how people work. Groups of people are more concerned with perpetuation of their organization than the task the organization exists for. Look at Mothers Against Drunk Driving. They started as a group who wanted society and the laws to take drunk driving seriously. Once they won that war though they didn’t want to declare victory and disband. So they’ve morphed into a temperance organization.
Police forces are primarily concerned with themselves. They want keep their funding, and keep their power, and will do anything, including protecting their worst members from detection and prosecution to do that. Plenty of police department heads in this country are elected not appointed. But even then we get no chance to fix it. I remember a bit back the Pima County Sheriff announced he was retiring. In between that announcement and the election PCSD was involved in a no-knock raid that hit the wrong address and resulted in a guy being flat out murdered by the cops. This was an open seat election so we had multiple candidates from both parties running. Not a damn one of them were willing to say anything about it, nobody took a stand against no knock, nobody mentioned crappy training that leads to cops not even knowing the address they’re kicking in. Nothing.
So no. None of your steps will change anything about this. I don’t know how to fix it. I can ameliorate some of the symptoms.
Part 1 - end all laws that make crimes against cops a higher penalty than the same thing against a civilian.
Part 2 - end qualified immunity.
Part 3 - treat ALL officer involved shootings as a crime, I don’t care how clean it looks, take it to trial, put the evidence on the public record for all to see.
Part 4 (really 3.5) - develop a nationally available pool of prosecutors to handle ALL cases where cops are defendants, we know from way too many cases prosecutors softball cases against cops because ones that get a rep for being tough on cops find cops in the witness stand suddenly don’t remember anything and that prosecutor’s career is basically over.
None of these will solve the problem. But some of the aspects of the problem might get improve.
I agree with all except prosecuting all cops as crime. In a self defense situation that is clearly self defense, one expects prosecutors to accept the facts and not persecute the shooter.
But I do admit that an outside group of prosecutors would see that a lot of questionable cases would be tried fairly. I would suspect that they would also dismiss charges against those cops who shot according to the ordinary rules of self defense, which of course includes the defense of others.
And I definitely agree with your opinion on no knock raids. That and swat teams used for everything except failure to feed the parking meter have done much to damage public opinion.
If it’s a clear self defense situation the trial will be quick and they’ll be absolved. Part of our problem now is the people don’t trust the cops so whenever a cop is involved in a shooting and nothing happens to them there’s a big crowd that just assumes it’s cops protecting their own. Because we’ve seen so many obviously bad shoots that result in nothing. Putting them all on trial puts all the evidence in the public record and demonstrates to the public that accountability is built into the system.
Convince the people that there is actual police accountability and we step back on that, maybe have a subsection of our prosecutors review the evidence of all shootings, still making available as public record, and then give a recommendation to press charges. But at this juncture when anybody that pays attention has probably half a dozen shootings they can remember instantly that resulted in nothing part of the project has to be winning back public trust. And if that puts a lot of cops on trial that “shouldn’t” be, too bad. That’s life in a barrel with bad apples.
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