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FMCSA will move forward with controversial speed limiter mandate
CDL Life ^ | 28 April 2022 | Ashley

Posted on 04/28/2022 4:29:19 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

On Wednesday, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) issued a notice indicating that the agency will move forward with a rule to require speed limiting devices on commercial vehicles.

The FMCSA plans to propose that any commercial vehicle with a gross vehicle weight of 26,001 pounds or more be equipped with an electronic engine control unit (ECU) that will be capable of governing speed to a limit that will be determined during the rulemaking process.

...The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) opposes any attempt to require speed limiters, arguing that they “increase congestion and speed differentials between trucks and cars, which ultimately lead to more crashes. Additionally, arbitrary speed limits make it difficult for truck drivers to switch lanes to accommodate merging traffic at entrance ramps – or to merge themselves.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
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It was safer when Buttigieg was home nursing.

Today large trucks, tomorrow pickup trucks, next week it will be anything with wheels.

1 posted on 04/28/2022 4:29:19 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

And the tyranny continues while the sheeple just follow along.


2 posted on 04/28/2022 4:31:54 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Maybe we should issue a maximum number of laws a politician can propose each year. Like one!


3 posted on 04/28/2022 4:31:57 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They will be easily flashed off the EEPROM and relegated to the trash heap.

Can you imagine fagboy as POTUS....I shudder to think of it.


4 posted on 04/28/2022 4:44:01 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intIend to RULE.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Well shoot! This puts every truck on the road in the right lane. That’s where I like to ride - everybody passes me because I do the speed limit, listen to all kinds of music, and cruise. That’s just how I roll...

The real question I have is how many trucks are NOT going to make it up hills?

My second question is do the people who wrote this bill actually drive on interstate highways and Backroads, around trucks carry wide loads, heavy equipment, cement, BAGS of palletized cement mix...

Not a single clue, do these numb skulls possess!


5 posted on 04/28/2022 4:47:42 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, bust that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Good luck adding that to my old Peterbilt. 40 pin ECUs don’t accept ELDs or any of their other crap.


6 posted on 04/28/2022 5:01:59 PM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Why doesn't Brandon & Booty-Gig just bring back the 55mph limit?

"It's a law we can live with"


7 posted on 04/28/2022 5:05:13 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Clutch Martin
The real question I have is how many trucks are NOT going to make it up hills?

Sounds to me they're limiting vehicle speed rather than power.

8 posted on 04/28/2022 5:06:23 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Lockbox

>>Maybe we should issue a maximum number of laws a politician can propose each year. Like one!

Zaleucus’s Rule for laws should be brought back for regulations as well.


9 posted on 04/28/2022 5:11:36 PM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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To: nascarnation
The real question I have is how many trucks are NOT going to make it up hills?

Sounds to me they're limiting vehicle speed rather than power.

In big rigs, including our 45ft RV, if you don't get up enough speed, you will end up bogged down, behind the power curve, doing 15mph, especially out west.

10 posted on 04/28/2022 5:50:53 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: nascarnation

Vehicles speed up on the downhill so they can make up the hill without slowing down a ridiculous amount.


11 posted on 04/28/2022 5:51:10 PM PDT by Chicory
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To: DUMBGRUNT; All
"On Wednesday, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety [??? emphasis added] Administration (FMCSA) issued a notice indicating that the agency will move forward with a rule to require speed limiting devices on commercial vehicles."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

While many unconstitutional federal government services are arguably a good idea, in this example of federal overreach (imo), it remains that the only power that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the feds to deal with safety limits such power to issues of rebellion or insurrection.

So not only are popularly elected federal "leaders" once again hiding behind non-elected federal bureaucrats in an election year, these "leaders" relying on bureaucrats to push their politically correct agendas, but career lawmakers are letting these bureaucrats get away with stealing state powers to dictate their edicts.

Supreme Court clarification of the scope of Congress's Commerce Clause powers, also the writings of Justice Joseph Story, warn us against wide interpretations of that clause.

In fact, in stark contrast to the feds now requiring speed limiting devices in vehicles, Story volunteered manufactures and road laws as examples of powers that the clause does not give to Congress.

Corrections, insights welcome.

Next, patriots are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.

Again, insights welcome.

12 posted on 04/28/2022 6:42:30 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: nascarnation

As a truck driver of over 25 years, speed and power are vital to each other. Being able to maintain speed limit approaching an upgrade means less time getting up the hill and less fuel usage lugging uphill, along with less wear and tear on equipment. We have a hard enough time doing our jobs in a timely manner without nanny-state regulating every single second of everything we do.


13 posted on 04/28/2022 7:01:23 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Basically this is a move by the teamsters union to organize more truck drivers. Speed limiter‘s will force owner operators to leave the industry. Joe Biden is all about helping unions. Again they’re gonna stick a fork in the last American cowboy the trucking industry owner operator


14 posted on 04/28/2022 7:22:23 PM PDT by ncfool (Joe Biden USSA.. United Socialist state of aMeriKa...... 11.3.2020 - President in waiting Kama-la-la)
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To: nascarnation

I’m guessing that you’ve never driven a large commercial vehicle. I used to drive coaches for a camp. (think Greyhound bus) One of ours was limited to 70 mph. It was a challenge on some larger hills. If you hit it with some momentum, you could maintain some semblance of speed up the hill. If you lost that momentum, you were crawling up the hill at 20 mph. It made a huge difference.

I frequently drive a smaller commercial vehicle for my job. 15,000 lbs or so. This is a beyond stupid rule.


15 posted on 04/28/2022 7:39:11 PM PDT by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR. Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee.)
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To: nascarnation

Torque? Low gear? I don’t understand the technique an e-truck/direct drive interesting. Maybe Im not understanding the transfer of direct power an electric motor and reduction gear will provide. The only experience that I have thats relatable is a diesel electric ship,
abd a hybrid camry, and my corded electric leaf blower.


16 posted on 04/29/2022 2:17:15 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, bust that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Spacetrucker

How much extra wear and tear (and extra fuel) will be caused by whatever retarding method is used to keep under the limit when going downhill?


17 posted on 04/29/2022 3:44:53 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance)gg g)
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To: cyclotic

So you’re thinking Booty-Gig is gonna pass a law against Mexican Overdrive?


18 posted on 04/29/2022 6:54:55 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Amendment10

Here is one from the same mother, a different brother.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-districts-unaccountable-power-come-true-disney-reedy-creek-new-deal-dont-say-gay-debt-spending-nassau-property-tax-11650897481

Special Districts Are Kingdoms of Unaccountable Power
Disney’s Reedy Creek is only one of 38,000 such entities nationwide—twice the number of U.S. cities.

The growth of special districts began in the Great Depression. In 1934 President Franklin D. Roosevelt urged the formation of special districts to skirt laws that limited the total amount of local debt or required voter referendums to issue debt. New Deal programs required states to create special districts, such as soil and housing authorities, to get federal funds.

Special districts are an increasing burden to taxpayers. They intentionally keep their accounting obscure, but by one estimate they collectively spend more than $200 billion a year. It’s probably an underestimate, since we know California districts alone spend $76 billion. In Nassau County, N.Y., 140 different special districts cost the average homeowner $1,000 a year in property taxes.

When Moody’s analyzed defaults on government debt it rated after 1980, almost 80% were from special districts.


19 posted on 04/29/2022 6:58:29 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Engine brakes have been around for decades; their proven safety benefits far outweigh the very minimal detrimental effect they have on equipment. Further, the industry as a whole has been moving to fully disc-brake equipped tractors which have a far better safety and durability profile as compared to drum brakes - but this whole conversation is going a bit far afield.


20 posted on 04/29/2022 7:15:13 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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