We made it our bizness during peacetime when we signed the Budapest Accession to the UN Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty & dismantled their nukes in exchange for border & sovereignty assurances.
Do you ever get tired of spreading this falsehood?
***It is NOT a falsehood. It is a signed accession to a ratified treaty. You just don’t agree with it.
The Budapest Memorandum obliged no such thing.
***It obliges “respect” for Uke borders and sovereignty. If you do not answer this question, I shall treat you as a troll henceforth: Is it a violation of that Budapest Agreement for Russia to INVADE Ukraine? Yes or no. You are applying your a priori classic fallacy here. You’re looking for ways that the agreement OBLIGES us to go in and kick Russian ass. You need to look at it in terms of whether or not the agreement ALLOWS us to go in and kick Russian ass, especially since they are flat wrong in this case. They invaded, Ukraine didn’t. Ukraine HONORED that agreement; Russia VIOLATED it twice in order to take oil & gas.
It never did.
***If INVADING a country is not a violation of that treaty then we can invade Mexico by using that logic. Or by way of that particular agreement, we can simply invade Ukraine and restore those borders — “respect” them using that UN NNPT language — and it wouldn’t be a violation of that treaty, right?
Your willful pretending
***Your willful sidling along a known troll and now coming in and trollfully stirring up shiite is setting you up to be treated as a troll.
that it says otherwise has become loathsome.
***I am finding your late-to-the-argument poison-moralizing to be quite loathsome.
“we can invade Mexico by using that logic”
The history that led up to the Mexican American War has a lot of similarities to that of eastern Ukraine.
The Republic of Texas in what was indisputably Mexican territory declared its independence.
You were given primary sources and the words of the men who actually formulated the documents that flatly contradict your interpretation. This has been pointed out to you by numerous FReepers.
History disagrees with you. Deal with it.
It obliges “respect” for Uke borders and sovereignty.
It obliges that the parties involved go to the United Nations. Has that been done? Has the UN authorized any military action to be taken against Russia, or for arms to be delivered to the Ukraine?
If you want America to defend Ukraine via arms delivery or whatnot, go for it: take it through Congress and actually declare war against Russia instead of relying on a toothless document that does not oblige what you say it does.
Your willful sidling along a known troll and now coming in and trollfully stirring up shiite is setting you up to be treated as a troll.
A troll according to who? Oh, just you, the guy who keeps throwing out 'troll' accusations like they're candy.
You're the one acting more like a troll than anyone else on this thread.
I am finding your late-to-the-argument poison-moralizing to be quite loathsome.
For you to condemn anyone for "moralizing" is an obscene level of projection.