This war is about OIL. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts
The Russians weren’t even interested in eastern Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.
In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.
But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.
This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc
If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.
‘This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.’
If Putin actually felt threatened, he wouldn’t be poking the lion with a stick, would he?
And we’re providing arms and money strictly due to our moral superiority?
How is the Ukraine our ally or our responsibility?
When have they ever done anything for us?
All the money we spent in Iraq, then we were stupid to let the Chinese get the oil.
The second map is a language map from 2014 for 2001:
https://www.polgeonow.com/2014/03/ukraine-divisions-election-language.html
“If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.”
Pootypoot — very smart.
whoever controls energy, will be able to control the world......
The chinkers and the ruskies KNOW that — which is why “green” energy is being pushed here — so they can hog the real energy for themselves.
Oil is still black gold...
perhaps this has a lot to do with the Israel-Arab gulf state “alliance” that has formed in the past year or two — they are basically creating an informal gulf-nato / neighborhood watch group. The players in the middle east want to keep the Chinese/Russian fangs away.
I think you're right. When did a bloody dictator like Poontang ever do anything on principle?
“If west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.”
Still don’t care. It’s not a direct threat to US security, and none of our business.
But the US IS egging on NATO countries to escalate. Like they’re trying to start WWIII, with other countries paying the price.
This admin is criminal.
It looks like this war is about food, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snlMfTEx5_g
Starts around 1:25.
If that bridge is totaled, that is apparently the last route out to export grain from Ukraine by sea. That ought to piss off all kinds of people.
The Ukes have been pretty proficient with gaining support so far (aided by typically counter-productive Russki trolls and tools in addition to Russian troops, and, Lavrov can't keep his lies straight). But here they have something else -- an opportunity to recruit from countries heavily dependent on Ukrainian food exports. That ought to be good for at least 2 million hungry fighters from Egypt alone.
All the stories of new-found oil and gas are propaganda. It is well known that Ukraine has it but the price of extraction is way higher compared to other places and it is in decline since 1970s, and practically stopped in the 1990s due to enormous corruption preventing investment.
Y-you mean, they aren’t just trying to eradicate “Nazism”? My world is crushed! Next you’ll be telling me Antifa is just working a hustle.