Russia cuts gas to Poland as U.S., allies to send Ukraine more heavy weapons

National Post ^ | April 27 2022 | Marek Strzelecki and Tsvetelia Tsolova and Pavel Polityuk

[Kevmo]

Ukraine accused Russia of blackmailing Europe over energy in an attempt to break its allies, as fighting heads into a third month without Russia capturing a major city

WARSAW/SOFIA/KYIV — Russia halted gas supplies to Poland under the Yamal contract on Wednesday, data from the European Union network of gas transmission operators showed, in a deepening of the rift between the West and Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.

Bulgaria, like Poland a NATO and EU member, said earlier that Russia would also halt supplies of gas to it.

Ukraine accused Russia of blackmailing Europe over energy in an attempt to break its allies, as fighting heads into a third month without Russia capturing a major city.

Poland’s gas supply contract with energy giant Gazprom is for 10.2 billion cubic meters (bcm) per year, and covers about 50% of national consumption.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has called on “unfriendly” countries to pay for gas imports in roubles, a demand only a few buyers have implemented.

“The ultimate goal of Russia’s leadership is not just to seize the territory of Ukraine, but to dismember the entire center and east of Europe and deal a global blow to democracy,” Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said late on Tuesday.

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[Kevmo]

asked & answered
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4058338/posts?page=107#107

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Yes I want you to expend the time because it is YOUR claim.

This is what you sound like:

Me: The sky is blue.

Kevmo: Prove it!

That's how ridiculous you sound. I'm not "claiming" anything about the existence of debate trolls and what they are. The common testimony of other sources should suffice to validate that debate trolls are common knowledge as far as Internet culture is concerned. Your request for examples is summarily denied.

THere you go again. Hyperbolic expanding of what the other person said just so you can argue against it.

...but you're the one who first brought up the whole notion of a debate. When you can't even accept the existence of your own words, what point is there in continuing?

Hope you get better. Goodbye.

[Kevmo]

This aint Sky-is-blue stuff. It's sumthin I've never heard of. There's no way it is so ubiquitous or you 'd have come up with 3 examples by now... DUHH.

[Kevmo]

troll said sumthin sumthin
Kevmo: Prove it! That's how ridiculous you sound. I'm not "claiming" anything about the existence of debate trolls and what they are. The common testimony of other sources should suffice to validate that debate trolls are common knowledge as far as Internet culture is concerned. Your request for examples is summarily denied. THere you go again. Hyperbolic expanding of what the other person said just so you can argue against it. ...but you're the one who first brought up the whole notion of a debate. When you can't even accept the existence of your own words, what point is there in continuing? Hope you get better. Goodbye.

[cuban leaf]

I get what you are saying, but being a student of the european theater during WWII and the events that led up to it, I consider this to be a very different situation than that one.

There is one big similarity that many don’t think about. Russia has suffered a great humiliation over the last couple of decades in a real way. And that harkens to the German attitude about the impact of the Treaty of Versailles. And Hitler definitely exploited that.

[cuban leaf]

So Russia will nuke America because they can defeat Ukraine ?

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That is not at all what I’m saying. If this thing doesn’t end soon, I would be very nervous if I lived in Europe, though. Cutting off gas is just the beginning, and no shots need be fired.

[Kevmo]

It’s good that you developed your thinking along the lines of sumthin many don’t think about, somehow there’s this great humiliation of Russia. But you didn’t develop your thinking along your first point, you merely say “I consider this to be a very different situation than that one.” If anything you burden your own case with more weight by giving my viewpoint more ammo.

[Kevmo]

hint: Notice what color the sky is behind Captain Obvious.

[NorseViking]

All the stories of new-found oil and gas are propaganda. It is well known that Ukraine has it but the price of extraction is way higher compared to other places and it is in decline since 1970s, and practically stopped in the 1990s due to enormous corruption preventing investment.

[Kevmo]

All the stories of new-found oil and gas are propaganda.
***Okay, how do we determine for everyone else how full of shiite you are? Or perhaps conversely, apply that expression to myself. We throw down on a debate. We find the facts, we let everyone else determine for themselves, and after some predetermined number of comments such as ... 300? ... we ask the mods to freeze the thread — NOT DELETE IT.

It is well known that Ukraine has it but the price of extraction is way higher compared to other places
***So if you’re Putin and you plan to gouge Europe over oil prices, having an alternative source of supply is bad for bizness.
Why Russia wants to invade Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE

and it is in decline since 1970s, and practically stopped in the 1990s due to enormous corruption preventing investment.
***Yeah huh, then why were there American Oil guys looking to pour resources into those fields until Ras Putin scared them off?

[NorseViking]

Check out the stories of American guys (or Indian and Chinese for that matter) who dared pour money into Ukraine. The lucky ones simply managed to cut losses and run away.

The rest of your points are popular propaganda.

[Kevmo]

Check out the stories of American guys (or Indian and Chinese for that matter) who dared pour money into Ukraine. The lucky ones simply managed to cut losses and run away.
***You go fetch. You have a point to make then you put in the shoeleather to make it, pootinpuffer.

The rest of your points are popular propaganda.
***Your entire presence is PootinPropaganda and it is a mystery to longterm freepers why fascists such as yourself continue to be allowed to operate here.

[Eleutheria5]

He’s acting under the assumption that he can intimidate the lion, who’s lost all his teeth and his main is mangy, and he’s suffering dementia besides.

That depends who the lion is. If it’s Brandon, he’s got a point. But it’s not Brandon.

[Eleutheria5]

Y-you mean, they aren’t just trying to eradicate “Nazism”? My world is crushed! Next you’ll be telling me Antifa is just working a hustle.

[Kevmo]

Antifa is just working a hustle.

[Long Jon No Silver]

There are jobs opening up at biden’s new department of Truth, headed by a former adviser to the nazi Ukraine regime about ‘disinformation’. You should fit right in. Take the rest of zelenksy ass kissers with you. You can get to work on getting everyone’s head right about what to think about your beloved ukraine nazi regime.

[Kevmo]

There are jobs opening up at Putin’s new department of Truth, headed by a former adviser to the commie USSR regime about ‘disinformation’. You should fit right in. Take the rest of Pootypoot ass kissers with you. You can get to work on getting everyone’s head right about what to think about your beloved russian Czarist/statist/communist regime.

[Long Jon No Silver]

Are you Jancowicz’s boyfriend?

[Kevmo]

Do you puff more than Putinpuff cigarettes?

[WoofDog123]

I think you have to get into the poll internals and exact phrasing.

“Are you ok with risking a nuclear explosion within a few hundred miles of you to help Ukraine (which presumably will be a nuclear fireball if that happens)?”

or “do you feel the US should give military aid to urkaine to resist russian invasion?”

or “Do you feel the US should coordinate with (alleged) ukraine air defense and feed real-time info to shoot down russians? (personally I suspect we did more than just pass on info, more likely ran their air defense)?”

I suspect most americans are not so ok with #1, more ok with #2 as long as it isn’t spelled out that it can lead to #1, and mixed on #3, same caveat.

but it doesn’t matter. this administration will not be deterred.