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Is Grant Due a Promotion
DNYUZ ^ | 4/27/22 | DNYUZ

Posted on 04/27/2022 6:57:48 AM PDT by Vermont Lt

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Interesting article about trying to promote Grant to the same rank as Pershing and Washington.
1 posted on 04/27/2022 6:57:48 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Will his heirs get back pension - plus interest?


2 posted on 04/27/2022 6:59:06 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Basically trying to pat him on the head because he played a role in freeing the slaves. All politics in the US is ultimately racial at this point.


3 posted on 04/27/2022 7:00:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's hard to "Believe all women" when judges say "I don't know what a woman is".)
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To: Vermont Lt

Grant was America’s greatest General.


4 posted on 04/27/2022 7:01:04 AM PDT by circlecity
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A similar joint resolution on Grant’s behalf was introduced last fall with bipartisan support. Two sponsors in the House are infrequent allies: Rep. Adriano Espaillat, a Democrat from Harlem who voted for former President Donald Trump’s impeachment in 2019 and 2021, and Rep. Elise Stefanik, who voted against impeachment both times and became the No. 3 Republican in the House with Trump’s endorsement.


so why is this important?


5 posted on 04/27/2022 7:01:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Vermont Lt

For me a posthumous promotion of anyone, unless there is some direct benefit to the widow or his kids, is just silly. You can’t add to his reputation by this.


6 posted on 04/27/2022 7:02:51 AM PDT by marron
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To: Vermont Lt
Grant was surely one of the greatest Generals in U.S. history. However one must concede that either the United States were NOT united during the Civil War, or that they were still considered united, but he did not command the armies of the South.

Either way, he wasn't general of the armies of the United States.

7 posted on 04/27/2022 7:05:34 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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There is no way Grant could have pulled off organizing the invasion of Europe in WW2.


8 posted on 04/27/2022 7:09:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: circlecity

His initials were interpreted as “Unconditional Surrender” but in a good way


9 posted on 04/27/2022 7:10:04 AM PDT by stormhill
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Basically trying to pat him on the head because he played a role in freeing the slaves. All politics in the US is ultimately racial at this point.

Meaningless promotions and salutations for the dead are government activities to pursue during "good times". We are nowhere near good times. Also, military ranks for officers should be directly connected to the number of forces under their command and only effective during their time of service, not a title of nobility. Used to be that three and four stars would return to two star rank upon retirement for pay and benefit purposes. Given that most general officers walk right out of uniform into a boardroom and a big paycheck, that policy should be updated and retirement bennies probably should be bumped down a few more ranks and capped at O-6.

10 posted on 04/27/2022 7:10:43 AM PDT by jz638
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To: Rebelbase

Why not?


11 posted on 04/27/2022 7:11:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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Grant didn’t have the political skill to coordinate a multi-national military.


12 posted on 04/27/2022 7:19:04 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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Grants political skill is what helped him win the war.


13 posted on 04/27/2022 7:26:08 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Vermont Lt
Did any of you guys read Grants memoirs?

Just finished it last month - he's actually a pretty-good writer, too. And a damned nice guy (you can tell by the way he talks about others, even guys he didn't like).

14 posted on 04/27/2022 7:31:54 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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Because he would have prevailed against Lee if he had had Lee’s manpower and resources, and Lee had had Grant’s?


15 posted on 04/27/2022 7:33:53 AM PDT by Romulus
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His original name was Hiram Ulysses Grant, but he didn’t want to be known as HUG, so he changed it.


16 posted on 04/27/2022 7:36:26 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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Posthumously promoting Washington made sense, for obvious reasons. But other than that, I say leave history alone. For if you promote Grant, why not promote others as well? Let’s just not go down that road.

I would, however, make an exception and promote General Halftrack to major general. That guy put up with a lot of grief over the years.


17 posted on 04/27/2022 7:38:19 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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There is no way Grant could have pulled off organizing the invasion of Europe in WW2.

Maybe not, but Eisenhower would not qualify as general of the United States Armies since the duty was split with Ike in the European theater and MacArthur in the Pacific. "Supreme Allied Commander" is still a pretty bad assed title.

18 posted on 04/27/2022 7:43:02 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Grant used what he had to his best advantage. He certainly didn’t have a massive advantage in manpower while fighting in the west. He also never made the same mistake twice - he learned. Lee repeated made the same mistakes. Further, Grant had a solid strategic vision while Lee had none. You can argue that Lee was a great tactician but Grant’s Vicksburg campaign was the greatest tactical campaign of the war.


19 posted on 04/27/2022 7:43:10 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Psalm 73

Grant’s memoirs are easily the best book written by any American president.


20 posted on 04/27/2022 7:45:03 AM PDT by circlecity
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