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Will Prosecuting Medical Errors Lead to a Culture of Silence?
Medpage Today ^ | March 28, 2022 | Kristina Fiore

Posted on 03/28/2022 4:24:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/28/2022 4:24:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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"We need to destigmatize human errors, acknowledge them, and learn from them."
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2 posted on 03/28/2022 4:32:48 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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What she did was worse than what the Police did when georgy Floyd died. If you can’t read the label, get glasses. Be VERY VERY careful when administering meds. She wasn’t, someone died. Why shouldn’t she get some jail time?


3 posted on 03/28/2022 4:39:03 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To those who say the nurse should never have been charged:

Howzabout you hire her to look after your dementia-stricken parent or Downs Syndrome child.

4 posted on 03/28/2022 4:41:36 PM PDT by HandBasketHell
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Code of Hammurabi territory here.


5 posted on 03/28/2022 4:41:42 PM PDT by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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I’ve read that more people are killed by medical mistakes than any other cause. A medical accident is no accident. Like the man said. Buy Glasses.


6 posted on 03/28/2022 5:01:01 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: All

Medical mistakes are definitely in the top three causes of death/illness, IMHO. I do have some experience in this.


7 posted on 03/28/2022 5:05:00 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Instead of Build Back Better, how about put it back the way you found it?)
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To: oldasrocks

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

This was even before the experimental jabbing.


8 posted on 03/28/2022 5:17:37 PM PDT by algore
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These are the same people who demanded police lock people up glfor covid.


9 posted on 03/28/2022 5:40:54 PM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Glad2bnuts

Its far more complicated than this.
She was floating in an unfamiliar area. she had a student assigned to her (distracting). When given the order to use the machine to dispense the medicine


10 posted on 03/28/2022 5:54:56 PM PDT by swingdoc
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Sorry, partial post. Continuing. When given the order, she went to use one of the machines, it didnt work. Went to a superior who told her that yeah, the machines not working is a known thing, try a different one. The patient is in the ER, so the time pressure is building up. Went to a different machine, that one didn’t work. Asked a superior, was told to over-ride the error which allowed her to use a shorter keyword to get the wrong machine. After she gave the med, she was called out to a different area. She asked the radiology department to have someone monitor the patient, but was told the patient would be OK, no go to where you’re told. Patient was left unmonitored and died.
So yes, ultimately she gave the wrong medicine, but it was a series of events in a well meaning person, in which a series of errors including the machines at the hospital and other staff’s attitudes has some culpability as well.


11 posted on 03/28/2022 5:59:19 PM PDT by swingdoc
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Can read quite well, thanks. Bad medical outcomes occur through different, and often multiple, missteps, and often by multiple individuals. Civil liability is one thing, and criminal prosecution is entirely another. Unless you’re talking about “Angel of Death” psychopaths who deliberately administer lethal medications, criminal prosecution is a good way to end up with no physician or nurse to take care of you in your old age.


12 posted on 03/28/2022 6:00:36 PM PDT by I-ambush (We watched the moment of defeat, played back over on the video screen. )
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Wouldn’t the pharmacy hold some responsibility for dispensing the wrong medication? I am not sure but wouldn’t the first step be verifying the right medication is given out for correct patient?


13 posted on 03/28/2022 6:04:56 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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Never mind. I just read the medication was dispensed from a electronic medication cabinet. I would not be shocked to discover such cabinets have lead to other such errors. All nicely swept under a rug.


14 posted on 03/28/2022 6:08:24 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: swingdoc

Thanks for the explanation.


15 posted on 03/28/2022 6:09:38 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: LouieFisk

People who want to criminalize this kind of accident are clueless about the inherent weakness of humans. Humans are not flawless machines. We have malpractice laws and lawsuits for errors and omissions… Much of the progress that has been made in improving patient safety has come because of non-punitive approaches to error identification and reporting. An entire science has developed around improving patient safety by honest, competent professionals. Perfect clinicians do not exist, no matter how much we want them to be 100% perfect and eternally flawless. Patient safety will be worsened by criminalizing accidents in this manner.


16 posted on 03/28/2022 6:25:17 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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Well, I suspect you know the maxim, “Doctors bury their mistakes”, is hardly a novel truism.


17 posted on 03/28/2022 6:31:39 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: lastchance

I would not be shocked to discover such cabinets have lead to other such errors.


Even worse was the infamous Therac 25.

https://tildesites.bowdoin.edu/~allen/courses/cs260/readings/therac.pdf


18 posted on 03/28/2022 6:37:12 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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There already is a culture of silence about medical mistakes. This nurse should never have been convicted.


19 posted on 03/28/2022 6:42:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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Vecuronium or Versed? Rocuronium or Rocephin? A reading problem by people taught to read using modern methods instead of phonics?


20 posted on 03/28/2022 6:48:59 PM PDT by omega4412
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