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The act of consecration by Pope Francis was: “To your Immaculate Heart we solemnly entrust and consecrate ourselves, the Church and all humanity, especially Russia and Ukraine.”

But consecrate or convert to what? Christ?

So we had a Vatican II pope, who promotes Vatican 2 even though it promotes heresies while he attacks the true Traditional Latin Mass consecrating Russia, ostensibly to convert, while Vatican II also teaches and recognizes the Orthodox as valid sister Churches with an authentic episcopate and sacraments.

Two diametrically opposed and opposite belief systems that hit head on when he made the consecration. Which is true then? Vatican 2 or the consecration?


4 posted on 03/27/2022 9:55:33 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, just as it says. This means that Mary, the Mother of God, will especially pray for Russia and Ukraine.

We ask that Russia convert, to turn away from sin, just as we each should always do, even Ukraine. We ask for protection for Ukraine, but protection against “the wickedness and snares of the devil” for Russia and all the rest of us as well.

Yes, the Catholic Church teaches that the Orthodox have valid sacraments. This is because the acts of consecration and ordination have not been altered to render them invalid, and the line of succession, whereby the laying on of His hands onto the Apostles has been passed down. This had always been the stance of the CC.

It does not mean the Orthodox are in good standing, according to the Catholic Church. It’s like saying someone is a good driver even if he doesn’t have a license: it’s not the license that makes him a good driver.

I don’t think this is a collision: even a stopped clock...


9 posted on 03/27/2022 1:14:45 PM PDT by Chicory
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