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To: Faith Presses On; daniel1212; Crusher138; Albion Wilde; Elsie; YogicCowboy; Persevero; ...

Now do you believe me? This is what I’m talking about. Does a kid have to die before you listen?


2 posted on 03/22/2022 11:52:35 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: Morgana

I am glad to see the parents are suing. She was 17 years old, not a little kid. I wonder how much this school charged. No doubt all the “residents” had to have medical insurance or Medicaid. Hard hearts, it seems.
Covid Insanity in 2020?


3 posted on 03/23/2022 12:23:56 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Morgana

Cause of death is never disclosed. More crap journalism or something else?


6 posted on 03/23/2022 3:01:19 AM PDT by robowombat (Orth, all )
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To: Morgana
Now do you believe me? This is what I’m talking about. Does a kid have to die before you listen?

Ever see a 1950s era science fiction movie? The adults NEVER EVER believe the kids or teenagers...

9 posted on 03/23/2022 5:14:19 AM PDT by null and void (Just because I speak English does not make me a Subject of the English Crown)
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To: Morgana
Does a kid have to die before you listen?

63,000,000 hasn't made a dent yet.

10 posted on 03/23/2022 5:27:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana

My point was that abuse is rife in both religious and secular institutions. The problem isn’t religion, it is people with authority.


14 posted on 03/23/2022 10:19:32 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Morgana

Oh, I certainly care. I’ve called the authorities in a couple of cases where children were almost certainly being abused — and I was not a mandatory reporter, either. I was also probably banned from Twitter for trying to protect children from abuse.

Maybe you are too close to the situation to be sufficiently objective, but you have no grounds to be accusatory towards other people here — people you don’t know at all — merely because they don’t see the overall situation just as you do.

You mentioned Teen Challenge here, too. I was familiar with its story myself, that its founder was Pastor David Wilkerson. They might actually do good work under ever more difficult circumstances these days, with the culture getting ever darker and more evil and hostile to God. I’ve also personally known in my life a couple of very troubled teenagers. One by himself or herself can cause a lot of havoc. And these days, there is so much more to confuse and mislead troubled teens, making it all the harder to reach them. The adult world itself has significantly lost its moral compass.

So any organization set up to help teens therefore has an extremely difficult challenge in trying to do so. And it might be compared somewhat to prison, though it’s nowhere near extreme and dangerous as that — so prison isn’t the safest place in the world, but the life that an active criminal would have outside the prison is even more dangerous, as well as being a danger to others. Many if not most of the teens in these homes are also in danger by their own misguided, disturbed, and immature conduct, as well as being a likely danger to others — if not due to potentially being violent, then due to poor decision making, going with the wrong crowd, and being a bad influence on other kids.

Finally, I’ve mentioned here on this site recently that I’ve experienced being homeless. While I was homeless, I stayed for a time at two different women’s shelters that were very comparable in many ways, especially in size and organization. One was run by a religious organization, and the other by a secular non-profit. The religious shelter definitely had its “business” side, but ultimately there was no comparison between the two. The religious place was vastly superior, including in the conduct of the women staying there because the atmosphere was different. The secular shelter truly was a business through and through, but also a government institution like public schools since that’s where most of its funding came from. In the secular place, I think I must have heard “MF” and the B-word (for female dogs) hundreds if not a thousand times a day, and I witnessed numerous fights and physical incidents, and was threatened myself. None of that happened in the religious place although the same types of people were there. The secular shelter had a similar culture to that of an underperforming public school, while the religious shelter still had quite a bit of spiritual vision and a culture of religious service and mission among the staff, who overall didn’t look down on women staying at the shelter. The secular shelter, however, was about careers and jobs, and the staff, starting from the top, mostly did look down on the residents.


19 posted on 03/24/2022 3:25:58 AM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: Morgana

I don’t think anyone disagrees that a certain number of these places are corrupt and dangerous. The disagreements I read on your previous thread had to do with the author characterizing all of Christianity in the same way.


21 posted on 03/26/2022 8:17:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If science can’t be questioned, it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda. --Aaron Rodgers)
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