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To: Williams

If one does not support Ukraine does that indicate that they are ‘Anti-American?’

I am actually on the fence regarding this entire thing.

The USA has a long time adversarial ‘relationship’ with Russia, but as well, Ukraine has been laundering big Bucks for some of the greatest scoundrels in American Politics today. What is there to like about Ukraine as they are enabling these serious crooks to more expeditiously undermine our Nation?

They can snuff each other out and that might be best for all.


83 posted on 03/22/2022 1:26:30 PM PDT by Radix (Politicians; the Law and the Profits )
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To: Radix

No, failure to support Ukraine is not un-American.

I’ve been “debating” with these folks for months and MANY of them make statements that are right out of the left’s handbook, and certainly are anti American. And more recently, directly anti-Trump.

A few simple examples - that our own government is more of an enemy than Putin; that Putin is a Christian anti gay warrior; that our history is just as evil as the invasion of Ukraine, therefore Putin is as justified or more so than America; that support for Ukraine is racist because we don’t care about Africa.

Then there is the virulent Ukraine hatred - Ukraine is a Soros operation getting what it deserves from Putin; anyone opposing the invasion is a paid Soros operative; Zelensky is a “homo”.

Meanwhile, I’ve listed our many strategic interests in Ukraine a dozen times and when you do that they change the subject.

They are extremely misguided and need to be called out for it.


87 posted on 03/22/2022 1:39:43 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Radix

Too many people here believe that if you are against sending billions of dollars of aid and tens or hundreds of thousands of troops to Ukraine, then you are for Putin and Russia.

It is abject stupidity.

I don’t want a cent (beyond some real humanitarian aid) of taxpayer money going to Ukraine. And I don’t want to send military forces. It is Europe’s back yard now. They have repeatedly shown how ungrateful they are and how much they despise us, with few exceptions.

I refuse to ally with the kind of people agitating for full-on war. Soros. The Biden Administration. The entire Democrat party. Big Tech.

I won’t do it. If they are for it (and they are damn well for it) then I am against it.


117 posted on 03/22/2022 2:59:39 PM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: Radix

“some of the greatest scoundrels in American Politics today”

These people getting a “mordida” from aid to Ukraine are just tools. Petty crooks, in the US context. They are public figures that are just employees, just like CNN’s talking heads.

Your real “greatest scoundrels” are the people behind them. And for them Ukrainian corruption is just a sideshow. What matters is the SEC, the DOJ, and the regulatory apparatus of the US. That’s where the real money is.


125 posted on 03/22/2022 3:16:31 PM PDT by buwaya
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