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Joe Rogan Endorses the Deep State: 'We Would Be Beyond F-ed' Without It
MSN ^ | Mar. 21, 2022 | Harper Lambert

Posted on 03/22/2022 5:00:31 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

Joe Rogan voiced his support for "the deep state" - a conspiracy theory peddled by Donald Trump and his followers that refers to a secret network of career politicians and federal agents - on a Saturday episode of his podcast, "The Joe Rogan Experience."

In an interview with former CIA officer Mike Baker, Rogan made his case. "One of the things that the tinfoil-hat brigade likes to talk about is the deep state," he said.

"They always like to talk about the deep state. What I was saying is, what if we didn't have a deep state?" he continued. "Do you know how f-ed we would be if we didn't have career politicians and career intelligence agencies? People who are there for a long period of time who do understand it."

Rogan argued that President Joe Biden exemplifies the need for a government staffed by several experienced civil servants.

"Listen, I've disrespected Joe Biden enough, I don't think I should do it anymore," he stated. "I've said enough about him being mentally incompetent. He's just compromised, he's an old guy. We know, everyone knows, the guy is falling apart."

If Biden was the sole person in charge, Rogan said, his administration would become a dictatorship.

"But imagine if he really was the only say in how things run, and how things go? If he really was a dictator," he proposed. "We would be beyond f-ed!"

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To: Rennes Templar
"But imagine if he really was the only say in how things run, and how things go? If he really was a dictator," he proposed. "We would be beyond f-ed!"

He is.

And we are.

And you, as usual support it.

You see, this is why I never go running to rescue a leftist when they get caught in their own trap.

Because all you have is a leftist that you have given your approval to.

101 posted on 03/22/2022 7:56:26 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: babble-on; Vision
"...There’s nothing I can see to indicate the government, other than a handful of people around Trump, was involved in anything other than surveillance on that score..."

Babble-on, nothing personal, I think you missed something. You should keep in mind the "Three Hop Rule" that applies to FISA approved surveillance.


  1. Any person who Carter Page communicates with may be legally surveilled. This includes the President, the Chief of Staff, the White House food services, the head of My Pillow, Inc., the White House Travel Office, the head of the RNC, and on, and on, and on.
    • For example, any person who communicated with by the head of the Republican National Committee (that Carter Page communicated with) in any way may be legally surveilled.
    • Every single person who ever communicated to anyone who ever communicated with the Head of the Republican National Committee may be legally surveilled.

  2. Any person who Trump communicates with may be legally surveilled. This includes the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of The Treasury, Melania Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Devin Nunes, Rudi Giuliani, and on, and on, and on.
    • For example, any person who communicated with Donald Trump Jr. (that President Trump communicated with) in any way may be legally surveilled.
    • Every single person who ever communicated to anyone who ever communicated with the Donald Trump Jr. may be legally surveilled.


    You get the point. There could be tens of thousands of people who could be legally surveilled. LEGALLY. (And...keep in mind: This USED to be the "Four Hop Rule" not the "Three Hop Rule".

    Even the people who were most likely to abuse it (the Obama Administration) couldn't fight the change of the rule back in 2014 as much as they wanted to, because as you can guess, with the "Four Hop Rule", nearly tens of millions of people could be legally surveilled with a single FISA warrant and they figured even the dimmest of bulbs out there had that figured out.

    Is there anyone...Anyone...ANYONE ANYWHERE with even a single ounce of honesty, who doesn't see this being abused by the Left?

102 posted on 03/22/2022 7:57:55 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

“testament to the career federal government employees that actually run the government. Not the DEEP state who work against the POTUS to obstruct his policy.”

So how exactly do we figure out who is who?

Do they have secret handshakes or something?

;-)


103 posted on 03/22/2022 8:02:48 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Sigh. At heart, Joe Rogan is a Leftie. His interviews are interesting to me because he lets the person talk, only occasionally interjecting.

But he is a Leftie. And my rule with Leftists is...let them talk. They will eventually tell you exactly what they are thinking and what they wish to do, all you have to do is listen.

I have to laugh, though. We hook our fortunes (or, emotions) occasionally to people like Joe Rogan, The Left hitches their wagons to the likes of Michael Avenatti, George Floyd, Michael Brown, and Patrisse Marie Khan-Cullors.


104 posted on 03/22/2022 8:03:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: carriage_hill

Our weakness (and our strength) is that we value independence and individualism, so it is harder to “organize”.

The Left values the collective and a hive mentality, and use it to great effect.


105 posted on 03/22/2022 8:05:27 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

I base my judgement of Joe Rogan based not on one interview, or one statement, but on his body of work and multiple statements.

Joe Rogan likes to paint himself as a Leftist-Libertarian, but to me, that is like the gallon of distilled, ultra-pure filtered, de-ionized water that has single drop of sewage dropped in it.

As I said in another post, at heart, he is a Leftist. All his statements, his buckling under willingly to censorship, point to that.

In reality, he is in it for himself, which is his business. We are all in business for ourselves. But he is no conservative. Not even close.

The MSM isn’t afraid of Joe Rogan. They know he is on their side, and recognized he needed “A good talking to”, as the character Delbert Grady” from “The Shining” might have put it.


106 posted on 03/22/2022 8:14:17 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: cgbg

Joe Rogan doesn’t realize they are one in the same, I though Joe was a whole lot smarter than this!! What an utterly STUPID remark!! The fact that he thinks the deep state is doing a great job of running the country because Biden is incapable and he thanks god they are there is insanity!! Does Joe Rogan honestly THINK that things are going great in this nation???


107 posted on 03/22/2022 8:14:37 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: rlmorel

They’ve infiltrated just about everything in America, and use all of them as weapons, to great effect.


108 posted on 03/22/2022 8:18:22 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

You hit THAT on the head for sure...


109 posted on 03/22/2022 8:19:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: Godebert

Joe’s magic is his willingness to invite on experts and then don’t let them duck questions. Like that tool from CNN tried when they lied about Ivermectin.

But, he did take the knee thereafter. Keep that in mind. Once you surrender to the mob (& he did) they never let up. Appeasement never works.


110 posted on 03/22/2022 8:22:59 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: woodbutcher1963

And just to clarify-I don’t have an issue with his interviewing style-I kind of like it. It is largely lower-key and non-intrusive.

That said, I don’t want to make him into something he isn’t.


111 posted on 03/22/2022 8:23:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: bobbo666

Yes.

Conservatives erroneously view conciliation in a contested political arena as open dialogue and an effort towards common ground (when not done for craven political reasons to try to pander or save their own skin)

Leftists view conciliation as weakness, appeasement, a victory that needs to be exploited by shoving the entire sword in and twisting it.

To Leftists, dialogue towards “common ground” is a one-way-ratchet towards their “ground”.


112 posted on 03/22/2022 8:28:07 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: Godebert

“I don’t get the whole “Joe Rogan” thing. The guy just doesn’t seem very intelligent at all.”

Rogan is a comedian and an actor. It stands to reason that he is not intelligent.


113 posted on 03/22/2022 8:44:15 AM PDT by LottieDah ( Biden/Harris are in and America is lost.)
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To: rlmorel

“The MSM isn’t afraid of Joe Rogan.”

Then why did they try to cancel him when he had interviews with both Peter A. McCullough and Dr Robert Malone?
WHY did they remove these podcasts from YouTube?

Why did Neil Young remove his music from Spotify?

The MSM is afraid and jealous of the audience Joe Rogan has because he crushes their ratings.


114 posted on 03/22/2022 8:49:25 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Interesting everyone knows the deep state from civil servants except Joe.


115 posted on 03/22/2022 8:49:53 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Joe Rogan thought Michelle Obama should run for President.

Despite that, the local Anti-Vax zealots here continue to heap praise on Rogan because he spoke out against the vaccines and had the anti vaccine hero on his show.
Talk about single issue people.

Rogan is a Leftist and admits it.

So his Leftist comments are no surprise.


116 posted on 03/22/2022 8:54:45 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: Rennes Templar

I think the attacks on him by the left have really rattled him, so now he is just caving in and joining them. Next, he’ll be praising Kamala Harris as a genius, and being seen having tea with Pelosi.


117 posted on 03/22/2022 8:57:12 AM PDT by euram
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To: Rennes Templar

On this topic, what he THINKS we mean about the ‘deep state’ is not what the deep state is.

I like his shows, but he is awful on politics.


118 posted on 03/22/2022 8:57:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: woodbutcher1963

I don’t doubt for a minute they are afraid and jealous for their ratings.

I am one of those who sees the Left and the MSM in cahoots. They simply want to control information on the Left, and the MSM is part of their tool to do so. So if they get instructions spoken or unspoken to suppress or not report, that is what they do.

Since they are all Leftists in the media to a large degree, they likely don’t need daily written instructions. They know what the Left wants as a narrative, and they cater to that.

In my opinion...:)


119 posted on 03/22/2022 8:57:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: rlmorel

Joe Rogan also appeals mainly to a younger audience.

The average Joe Rogan podacst viewer did not listen to Rush or watch Hannity, Tucker Carlson or Mark Levin.

The reason they are concerned is because he reaches a different audience than the traditional conservatives watch or listen to.

This is the same audience of the NELK Boys who interviewed Trump at Marilago a couple weeks ago. It went viral as soon as it was posted on YouTube. Within 24 hours it was no longer on YouTube.

They do not want the truth getting to low information potential voters. They can not control what comes out in the JR Podcasts. Therefore, it makes him dangerous.


120 posted on 03/22/2022 8:58:13 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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