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To: Skywise

It is becoming a stalemate. No one is ‘winning’ and both sides are losing to some degree. I dare say the Russians might have already ‘won’ by taking over the Russian speaking areas. It’s as simple as that.


38 posted on 03/19/2022 8:08:51 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: LibFreeUSA

Russia is taking territory. Ukraine is losing it.

This is not a stalemate


47 posted on 03/19/2022 8:26:05 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: LibFreeUSA

“I dare say the Russians might have already ‘won’ by taking over the Russian speaking areas. It’s as simple as that.”

But they pretty much already had them as a result of the Russian invasion of 2014 (fought largely by Russian proxies).

This thing will end in some kind of compromise, wherein Russia will get to keep Crimea and LPR and DPR gain “independence,” at which time they will be annexed by Russia. Ukraine will agree to not pursue NATO membership, which is really no concession by Ukraine because Ukraine was likely never going to be accepted into NATO anyway. Russia has to withdraw all its forces from Ukraine. Ukraine will not have to demilitarize.


81 posted on 03/19/2022 12:26:25 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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