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Forest Service to remove ‘feral’ horses from Alpine to protect endangered species
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 3-15-22 | Kim Powell

Posted on 03/18/2022 9:17:12 AM PDT by SJackson

ALPINE, AZ (3TV/CBS 5) – The US Forest Services will be collecting ‘feral’ horses in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest in Alpine starting Mar. 21st. The removal of the horses comes after the Center for Biological Diversity, a nonprofit group based out of Tucson, filed a lawsuit against the Forest Service for violating the Endangered Species Act. The group claims the Forest Service fails to control feral animals’ damage to the meadows and streams, which are the New Mexico Jumping Mouse’s federally protected habitat.

“Since the early 2000s, feral horses have been causing severe damage to the habitat of threatened and endangered species in an area including the Chiricahua leopard frog, narrow-headed garter snake, loach minnow, and Apache trout, and New Mexico meadow jumping mouse - which is nearing extinction. There are indirect effects on habitats of Three Forks spring snail and Mexican spotted owl. Collection of these feral horses is an ongoing process and necessary for responsible forest management for the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests,” said Jeffrey Todd, the spokesperson for the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest (ASNF).

The Center for Biological Diversity says the jumping mouse relies heavily on the tall grass and streams in the Alpine area, which they claim unauthorized livestock are damaging.

“What is really the damage the horses are doing? Because when you have elk and deer and cattle and they’re all kind of using the same area, you can’t really say it’s the horses doing the damage,” said Simone Netherlands, an Arizona wild horse advocate. Netherlands says she and other horse advocates were notified two days ago of the roundup and wish they had more notice. “We think it’s really sad we’re only getting seven days to try to save these horses. That’s not enough time for the public to give their input.”

(Excerpt) Read more at azfamily.com ...


TOPICS: Outdoors
KEYWORDS: apachetrout; gartersnake; jumpingmouse; leopardfrog; loachminnow; russianhorses; wildhorses
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1 posted on 03/18/2022 9:17:12 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

“...New Mexico Jumping Mouse...”

Seriously?


2 posted on 03/18/2022 9:18:27 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me to be on or off . And ping me is you see articles of interest.

What is really the damage the horses are doing? Because when you have elk and deer and cattle and they’re all kind of using the same area, you can’t really say it’s the horses doing the damage An excellent point, which won't be considered by bureaucrats.

3 posted on 03/18/2022 9:19:33 AM PDT by SJackson (If I'm elected President ... we're going to cure cancer, Brandon, June 2019)
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To: SJackson
So much for "Mother Nature" ruling...

"MAN IS THE RULER OF ALL"

AND Mother Nature doesn't know what she's doing.

4 posted on 03/18/2022 9:20:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: carriage_hill

I like horsies better than jumping mice.


5 posted on 03/18/2022 9:20:55 AM PDT by FLNittany
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To: SJackson

Those “feral” horses have been there almost 500 years now.

Once again, liberals have decided to play God and decide which species are “allowed”.


6 posted on 03/18/2022 9:21:03 AM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: FLNittany

I’m surprised the horses don’t stomp them flat, and eliminate the nuisance pest.


7 posted on 03/18/2022 9:21:58 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SJackson

Bookmark


8 posted on 03/18/2022 9:23:22 AM PDT by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: datura
Democ RATS supporting their rodent relatives over the noble Equine species.

Figures.

9 posted on 03/18/2022 9:23:25 AM PDT by Vlad0
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To: Vlad0

The New Mexico Jumping Mouse is illegally living in Arizona to begin with.


10 posted on 03/18/2022 9:24:10 AM PDT by Vlad0
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To: SJackson

when you have elk and deer and cattle and they’re all kind of using the same area, you can’t really say it’s the horses doing the damage
***There have been several studies of fenced-in areas. Deer have no trouble jumping the fence, cattle can’t. The grass grows just fine, very little erosion in the fenced-in deer areas.


11 posted on 03/18/2022 9:25:00 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: carriage_hill

It’s just a fancy name for illegals who jump the border wall.


12 posted on 03/18/2022 9:25:13 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump. Let's Go Brandon! FJB!)
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To: Vlad0

Apparently they have full health care as well.


13 posted on 03/18/2022 9:25:42 AM PDT by FLNittany
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To: SJackson

Feral horses are an invasive, non-indigenous species that destroys the carrying capacity of the forest, just like they do in the desert.

Since the 1971 wild horse and burro act, they have been allowed to procreate without any hindrance. The mountain lion and the bear are the only predators that can take them down.

Unlike deer and elk, they cannot be shot.


14 posted on 03/18/2022 9:28:15 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: SJackson

RATS, taking sides wi mice, against horses... that’s anti-NATURE!


15 posted on 03/18/2022 9:28:53 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SJackson

Arriba! Arriba! Andale! Andale!


16 posted on 03/18/2022 9:30:30 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: SJackson

Knowing the area, here are a couple of contextual things. I’m still not sure how I feel, but I will form an opinion when I read the article closer.

1. Feral horses probably have not been in this area 500 years. It was settled much later and it is unlikely horses found their way up into this area or were released in this area prior to 1900.

2. The Southwest is in a prolonged drought and certainly 400 horses would put a burden on the ecosystem of the white mountains, especially if they were in the Alpine area. You have a large elk population here as well.

3. If they are tearing up the streams, the wild trout that live in them will suffer from that.

4. There is very little that can outcompete a horse in this area and so they’re population will continue to grow and push out other large species.

That said, I might be for reducing the population and holding it there. I’m just not sure at this time.


17 posted on 03/18/2022 9:30:36 AM PDT by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: SJackson

Mouse and Horse CoExist

A new bumper sticker for the Show Low - Pinetop micropolitan area


18 posted on 03/18/2022 9:31:13 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ah, the “Mexican desert jumping illegales”


19 posted on 03/18/2022 9:32:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” ~ Jerry Rice)
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To: carriage_hill

Yes, the Center for Biological Diversity is using this endangered mouse to run ranchers off of public land in the West. They have fenced off streams so cattle on grazing allotments can’t use them. In the eastern part of New Mexico they use the endangered Sand Dune lizard to shut down oil drilling.

The Endangered Species Act needs to be reexamined and updated, which should have been done while the GOP was in the majority. It is being used to destroy ranching and other businesses, especially oil drilling.


20 posted on 03/18/2022 9:33:05 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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