Posted on 03/15/2022 4:31:07 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Memo to anyone who believes Russia is a bigger threat to the U.S. and the West in general than China is: Russia is reportedly now asking China for help with weapons and materials for its war against Ukraine. Think about that.
Second memo to anyone who believes Russia is a bigger threat to the U.S. and the West in general than China: China’s economy is many times the size of Russia’s. It also manufactures much of the world’s modern consumer goods. And it currently dictates much of what the rest of the world can manufacture because it manufactures many of the computer chips and other necessities for doing so. Moreover, it is buying up land and ports around the world and otherwise positioning itself to dictate to other nations with its staggering in scope Belt and Road Initiative.
Third memo to anyone who believes Russia is a bigger threat to the U.S. and the West in general than China is: Though perhaps less brutish than Russia’s, China’s leaders are cleverer, more forward-looking, and in some ways more diabolical, in plotting their nation’s future vis-à-vis everyone else on earth.
Sickeningly, it is already clear that the winner of the Russia-Ukraine War will be…China. Perhaps even more nauseatingly, the country that will ultimately weather the COVID-19 pandemic in the best shape structurally and economically will almost certainly be…China, the nation that recklessly, if not deliberately, loosed the plague on the world.
Western nations appear to have been somewhat awakened to harsh external realities by Putin’s assault on Ukraine. That is a good thing, such as it is. Russia under Putin is hostile to our interests and sensibilities. However, if the same Western nations cannot pry themselves from their recent obsessions with “climate change,” “gender fluidity,” and “preferred pronouns” long enough
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The left seems to hate Russia because they gave up on communism, not because the invasion of Ukraine was a horrible thing.
No! RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! Putin lover!
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In order to rearm and modernize their weaponry, Russia will be forced accept client state status from China. The new Eastern European arms race has already started. What better way for Xi to keep America occupied and financially unable to match China’s Asia moves than to have America bogged down in the American/Russian Ukrainian Conflict Cold War quagmire. Brilliant strategy on Xi and General Dynamics part.
“Russia” is just a proxy for conservatives.
With literally every statement progs have made about Russia over the past 6 years, one should replace “Russia” with “conservatives”.
“Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election!”
“Russia posted memes on Facebook and Twitter!”
“We need to shut Russia out of the global economy!”
“We need to block Russian propaganda on YouTube and other platforms.”
Russia under Putin is hostile to our interests and sensibilities.
Put it in crayon.
Mebbe some here might actually buy a clue.
I agree that Russia is a threat, but not as great a threat as China.
Interesting point.
Yet they sent armored thrusts into that mess and lost thousands of conscripts and hundreds of vehicles to the well-known threats.
Did they really think that the Ukrainians would cheer their arrival? Did they really believe that the Ukrainian army would just fold like wet Kleenex?
All of those hapless conscripts have mothers, and every one of those mothers will make themselves known when they learn that they have lost their children for Putin's land grab.
As far as I’m concerned, Russia was the wildcard, and they were going to line up their huge resources and huge nuclear military with either China or the US, and the only way to have a reasonably balanced world was for Russia to line up with us.
But the Democrats didn’t want that, so we’re on our own now, with our Drag Queen military.
After 30 years of humiliation and rejection by western powers I have no idea what is the point of looking at Russia and China as something separate.
After 20 days the Ukrainian Army indeed mostly collapsed. As for the Russian losses, slash the Ukrainian claims by 10 and that is going to be an unrealistically high figure.
'Spose those "military geniuses" didn't know that their armor would be channelized on the roads during Ukraine's Mud Season? Nice room for maneuver...
I am not a military expert. I am sure there are others on this board that could explain this better than me. I will try.
The Russian air force sucks.
They do not have nearly the same amount of training and support that the USAF/Marines/Navy pilots have. They have some good equipment. They do not spend enough hours training how to effectively use it.
They fired 300 +/- missills into Ukraine. They needed to follow that with fixed wing airstrikes to destroy the remaining mobile antiaircraft units. They did not. So, their aircraft will continue to get picked off one at a time. They should have established air superiority. They did not.
Any FReeper with air defense experience please feel free to correct anything I am wrong about.
The Russian armed forces have failed even elementary tests for military training, cohesion, and planning.
Figures that a member of the Air Force would not understand ground combat realities...:-)
Ukraine is a little bit different from Iraq per quality and number of AA units. I think they are mostly done though.
the greatest threat to your freedom and financial well being is the US government...
Here’s a thought nobody seems to be thinking, so consider it a topic for conversation:
Is a world with three super-powers—essentially a “Mexican Stand-off” more stable than one with two world powers?
Putin, and the Russians generally don’t appear to have maintained amicable relations with China for very long. I don’t see their present apparent alliance as anything more than temporary.
Russia may be our best defense against China’s Belt and Road based bid for hegemony.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m terrified. I no longer take comfort in Fortress America’s ability to withstand any attack.
Both Russia and China have nukes, lots of them. But hopefully there is enough sanity left in the world to avoid complete obliteration. Iran, not so much.
Closer to home, we are sitting ducks for a Red Dawn type attack, from within. We know, with certainty, that the millions of strangers that Uncle Joe has allowed into our living rooms includes untold numbers from openly hostile foreign lands. And just for a thought exercise, imagine if just one in ten of those military-age Chinese college students we are hosting were actually members of the People’s Army, awaiting a signal.
If those worries won’t keep you awake at night, we now have fuel problems, fertilizer scarcity and almost certain food shortages before the end of summer.
We are at war, in my opinion. But we haven’t gone to a war footing yet. We’re just sitting here, sipping a Mai Tai and watching the world slowly catch fire.
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