Posted on 03/14/2022 7:09:40 PM PDT by arthurus
The history of Western man is the history of war, and no war looms larger in the West than the Peloponnesian War. Fought in the fifth-century BC between the Delian League, led by Athens, and the Peloponnesian League, led by Sparta, the war has come to define the two natures of the West. One side is the austere, efficient men of war and the other is the creative men of culture and philosophy.
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You got me there, my friend, my bad. I hope he’s just an idiot, it may be worse.
“So, you agree with people who say because the U.S. had slavery, they are forever tainted?”
I’d agree with you if we still had slavery in the post Cold War era.
“May I ask what country you live in?”
What’s wrong, you can’t tolerate other opinions? Hate to break the news to you, but there are PLENTY of people here who also think we have no business in Ukraine. I guess you attack me because I’m effective.
That's a joke, because I have argued we shouldn't be in the Ukraine.
You attack anyone who criticizes Russia, Putin, or any action taken by them, or deviated from their party line.
“You attack anyone who criticizes Russia, Putin, or any action taken by them, or deviated from their party line.”
You might want to check your posting history with me on this thread before trying to push that shit.
That's rich, and it's projections. If you read all my posts to you have the right to your opinion. Go look. You are the one who won't tolerate other opinion to an Islamic degree. I have just repeatedly asked you to be honest about your opinion. But you evade, evade, evade, as you are doing i this post.
I also said things critical of the U.S. You refuse to say anything critical of Russia/Putin. The fact yu can't be transparent is telling. You also remind me of 1984.
Give me an example. I read every thread you replied to me. The best you could come up with was some weird comparison to the U.S., but it certainly didn’t say anything critical of Russia.
“...but it certainly didn’t say anything critical of Russia.”
Is that now some kind of a litmus test here now?
“I also said things critical of the U.S. You refuse to say anything critical of Russia/Putin. The fact yu can’t be transparent is telling.”
Since I don’t live in Russia or know any Russians, I guess you’re asking me to repeat media propaganda about Putin.
Sorry, but I don’t trust the truthfulness of the media to the extent you want me to.
All the points will be moot went we are slaves to one side.. or slaves to the other side. Or all atom ash
The two thing are lacking wisdom and integrity
We don’t expect it from Putin.. but we did from our side.. but the don’t.. this was Predicted for 30 years if the nato kept expanding.. can someone please tell me when they plan to stop expanding?.. the war hawks seem to believe it there Manifest destiny to expand from sea to shining sea
“but it certainly didn’t say anything critical of Russia.”
Here you go, Putin should have had closer to 500,000 troops ready to roll into Ukraine, given the amount we were arming and training Ukraine. I do tend to believe the media when they say it’s going slower than planned, so that was a mistake by Putin.
Neocons in claiming that Russia is the center of all evil and Ukraine is as pure as the wind driven snow. Pathetic.
But the reality is that is projection on your part. Because I don't actually see many Freepers so pro-Ukraine or Zelensky as you say. Most were open to criticism therein.
But it was the opposite of what you said, Because you and the Russia chauvinists who criticize Ukraine and U.S, etc., but act like Russia is so pure and can't be criticism. It was exactly the opposite of your claim.
Further, when you were challenged on that, you said you were a mind reader. Which means, you just made up your original statement and it was a lie. Because why would you need to be a mind reader to attest to the veracity of a statement you already made?
If my response to you was a litmus test, then your original litmus test to begin with. So abide by your own rules.
So any criticism of Russia is media propaganda. So, Russia is pure as the wind-drive snow.
I know the Alinsky game. Ukraine, U.S. = evil. Putin = Allah. Any criticism of Putin is from the infidels.
Why wouldn’t you want to live in Russia, since it’s so great and the U.S. is so bad?
Why would you believe that? Why would the media put one fact in their story, with all the other lies?
“Well, you started with:
Neocons in claiming that Russia is the center of all evil and Ukraine is as pure as the wind driven snow. Pathetic.”
Correct, so why do you think I was going after FReepers. Do you know the difference?
“Why would you believe that? Why would the media put one fact in their story, with all the other lies?”
It’s my own assessment, I don’t need the media’s help with it. And it’s not the media telling me it’s going slow, it’s the fact that Russia hasn’t yet liberated a significant number of cities.
“Why wouldn’t you want to live in Russia, since it’s so great and the U.S. is so bad?”
Putin pays like crap. And I’ve said that before, so count that as my #2 criticism of him.
“So any criticism of Russia is media propaganda. So, Russia is pure as the wind-drive snow.”
Your words, I’ve never said that about Russia. As to “any criticism” being propaganda - well, what choice do I have, since I don’t think the media labels which (if any) stories on Russia are true and which ones are false.
You said, on your original post on this thread, people said it about the Ukraine. You prove that.
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