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The Last War of the Neocons
Taki's Magazine ^ | 14 March 2022 | The Z Man

Posted on 03/14/2022 7:09:40 PM PDT by arthurus

The history of Western man is the history of war, and no war looms larger in the West than the Peloponnesian War. Fought in the fifth-century BC between the Delian League, led by Athens, and the Peloponnesian League, led by Sparta, the war has come to define the two natures of the West. One side is the austere, efficient men of war and the other is the creative men of culture and philosophy.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; History
KEYWORDS: agitprop; athens; chechens; chechnya; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; thucydides; ukraine; zot; zottherussiantrolls
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To: nickcarraway

“Biden fought tooth and nail to keep Russia in SWIFT.”

Sorry, that was Germany, and for good reason. Biden’s comment reflected the reality of the situation.


61 posted on 03/14/2022 9:24:21 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL
I never said any Eastern European country or former Soviet Republic is pure. You are the one who says the Ukraine is evil, the United States is evil. You are the one who praises war, for your country. First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

I can quote scripture too. At the end of the day, you want everyone else to live up rules, you won't live up to. Just come out and say the United States is evil, and Russian is angelic. Many people believe that. Just be honest about it.

62 posted on 03/14/2022 9:24:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“Obama told Putin he could have Ukraine when he was president, and now the bill came due.”

Link please.


63 posted on 03/14/2022 9:25:22 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Those brave, virtuous Russian stood up and achieved victory over the evil, cowardly Americans, right?”

Your opinion, I didn’t say it.


64 posted on 03/14/2022 9:26:13 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

Sorry, Biden is in the tank for Russia. Why was Biden freezing aid to Ukraine last June, if he is so anti-Russian and pro-Ukraine?


65 posted on 03/14/2022 9:26:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: BobL

You say the United States was wrong in 1963 and wrong in 2022. You have never said one positive thing about the United States.


66 posted on 03/14/2022 9:27:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“At the end of the day, you want everyone else to live up rules, you won’t live up to.”

Not me, not you, the US government. We bombed the shit out of Serbia WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION. Like it or not, we’re not in any position to tell other countries how to behave.


67 posted on 03/14/2022 9:28:29 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL
How come I have to prove everything I say, but you never have to back up your claims.

There's a name for that - Alinksyism.

68 posted on 03/14/2022 9:29:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“You say the United States was wrong in 1963 “

Link please.


69 posted on 03/14/2022 9:29:13 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Sorry, Biden is in the tank for Russia.”

Do you want to be taken seriously here?


70 posted on 03/14/2022 9:30:32 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: nickcarraway

“How come I have to prove everything I say, but you never have to back up your claims.”

You made a claim that I (and probably no one else here) are familiar with when you said “Obama told Putin he could have Ukraine when he was president”. Are we supposed to take you at your word here? You wouldn’t let me do the same.


71 posted on 03/14/2022 9:32:45 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL
I was totally against the United States bombing Serbia in 1999. There was only one reason for it. To get Clinton's problems off the front page.

I also remember back then your buddy was Secretary of the Security Council of Russia. The promised to help their brother Slavs, like they always do, and then crickets. They couldn't even type an oped helping their brother Slavs. The Chinese did more to help Russia's brother Slavs.

Russia is always claiming they are the benevolent big brother to other Slavs, and they never do anything for them, except invade them, or side with Muslim terrorists. They did more for Syria and Iran than they did for their brother Slavs.

72 posted on 03/14/2022 9:37:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: BobL
Like it or not, we’re not in any position to tell other countries how to behave.

Except you only say that about the U.S. You allow no criticism of Russia.

73 posted on 03/14/2022 9:38:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

You are trying to reason with an idiot.

The Putin lovers are either fools or employees of Putin.


74 posted on 03/14/2022 9:38:50 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: BobL
LOL. It wasn't written down. But why don't you demonstrate evidence of any claim you've made on this thread. You say things without evidence.

But it's a textbook Alinksy tactic - make the other party prove their assertions, but never do it yourself.

75 posted on 03/14/2022 9:40:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“I was totally against the United States bombing Serbia in 1999.”

That’s good as it means you understand that we have no moral high ground when it comes to one country attacking another country without provocation (although that is arguable regarding Ukraine).

As to Russia being broke and unable to project power - yea, that’s what happens after 70 years of Communism. Things were different for Russia when it came to Syria.


76 posted on 03/14/2022 9:41:42 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Except you only say that about the U.S. You allow no criticism of Russia.”

Russia is now in no position to pass judgement on others too.


77 posted on 03/14/2022 9:43:20 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

So, you agree with people who say because the U.S. had slavery, they are forever tainted?


78 posted on 03/14/2022 9:44:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“LOL. It wasn’t written down.”

Ok, I’ll give you a pass on it. I don’t think you’ve given me an exact quote that you want me to back up.


79 posted on 03/14/2022 9:44:41 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

May I ask what country you live in?


80 posted on 03/14/2022 9:45:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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