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To: dfwgator
Putin does not respect Ukraine as a Nation.

There is no indication of that, I think.

Putin invaded Ukraine because NATO was seriously courting them to join. That would possibly put nuclear weapons on the Russian border.

Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? That was our Ukraine. I think it is the same situation there.

16 posted on 03/01/2022 8:32:00 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce

Might have agreed until Putin said Ukraine had no right to exist. This is basically the exact same thing Hitler said about Czechoslovakia. He wants to make Ukraine a Russian “Protectorate”.


22 posted on 03/01/2022 8:33:22 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ShadowAce

Ukraine asked for NATO membership in 2004. It was them begging to get in all these years.


24 posted on 03/01/2022 8:34:16 PM PST by buwaya
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To: ShadowAce

I guess I missed the part where we told Putin “We will bury you.”


57 posted on 03/01/2022 8:50:15 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: ShadowAce

WW1 started because after France’s brilliant tactic to forge alliance to ensure the next war would be so big and horrific that war would be unthinkable was revealed to be absolute bullocks because it failed to take into account that there were people who effectively wanted nothing more than to see the world burn.

Expanding NATO Willy nilly is similar in many respects. NATO was formed when interest of a much smaller group of nations found common cause but its expansion represents it becoming a sort of country club which needs someone to not be in it … and that alone made this new phase problematic.

The Eastern European nations should have forged their own alliance rather than become second fiddles to a number of continental nations that had as much demonstrated they viewed NATO as military welfare boosting local economies at American expense … well, unless the purpose of their jointing was to saddle on up to the bar….


60 posted on 03/01/2022 8:51:12 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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