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I think the US is backing the wrong side in the Ukraine invasion
Self / Freerepublic | 03 March 2022 | Self

Posted on 03/01/2022 8:22:34 PM PST by ShadowAce

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To: sushiman

“Ukraine is completely corrupt. So is Russia.”

As is USA!!!!!!!!

We certainly agree on those points.

...and with those points in mind, we probably would be wise to not be involved other than vocally in the present tiff that may take some time to to reach a conclusion.


161 posted on 03/02/2022 3:35:50 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Trio of evil,
Just say it, bidens policies reveal him to be a compromised traitor, as with pelosi and fauci mass murderers for lunch bunch..

Trump got in the way..its the plan imo..
Biden opens border, destroys the economy, subverts elections, putin goes in,
Probably will nuke someone to conquer Europe, Xi and Biden will not respond,
Europe is pootys as planned,
Xi gets Asia Australia,
Perverted usa traitors manage the americas..

Biden, pelosi , fauci, and school are most likely sellouts that will do anything to not be exposed including destroy America, and be mass murderers, to me there really is no other reasonable explanation for their actions, too stoopid, no no, traitors and mass murderers, what’s a few more million dead..

Trio of evil to usher in the beast..

Man has sucked up to Babylon the ho in the name of God, he’s pissed..
Did not seek christ..
Jesus Saves not a perverted society..

https://rumble.com/vvvi0b-we-got-us-a-convoy.html


162 posted on 03/02/2022 3:44:23 AM PST by aces (and )
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To: wardaddy

“We caused this as much as anyone our leaders taking Uke govt and oligarch bribes and egging them on to where they are now.”

We are certainly in 100% agreement on that point. Other points as well.


163 posted on 03/02/2022 3:59:58 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: ShadowAce

China, Venezuela, Cuba, Belarus support Russia. Is somehow this better?? Is this the order one wants?

It was in the news how the Russian people were calling Putin “Adolph”, Soviet Union, Kremlin signed the Ribbentrop pact to collaborate with the Nazis and start World War II. Russia is certainly deeply involved in this.

Lots of Skinheads in Russia, Neo-Nazis in Wagner group.


164 posted on 03/02/2022 4:01:27 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: Williams

Clueless and pointless wasting time on you. You go back to lapping up the lies and disinformation Biden, Inc, CNN, Fox and your war mongering neocon pals feed you. What a dipshit, you’re reading, verbatim, Hillary’s talking points. Love it, love it, love it, you’re so anxious to continue your propaganda fed stooging, you don’t care which lying DC scum you get behind first, Clinton, Biden, Obama, CNN, NYT, your Bush buddies, McConnell, even George Soros. You sound so natural cheerleading for your Uniparty masters. Put down the damn TV remote and read a book about the history of the area. Even you can begin to think for yourself if you just try it. Geesh!


165 posted on 03/02/2022 4:05:38 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ShadowAce

I have taken a step back from the edge. We actually do not need to back a side. This is not our war. Reality is Putin’s goals are unclear and keep changing daily.

Two things I do believe are true. Trump wanted to ‘protect’ America from the NWO and Putin wasn’t ready to handover Russia to the NWO. The question is how much of what Putin is doing is fueled by that premise?

Just a few years ago Putin was saying and doing things many here on FR agreed with. I recall statements from FReepers noting in some ways people were more at liberty in Russia than here. It is that incongruence that should have signaled Putin’s state of mind.

Parliamentarian Kira Rudik is a deep state WEF economic operative. Most here on FR have not taken the time to research her. They should. Once they do, it may dawn on them she is directing the sanctions, not Biden, for the destruction of the Russian economy. And that would make perfect sense as to why Putin needs to remove the Ukraine government and insert Russian control.


166 posted on 03/02/2022 4:19:51 AM PST by EBH (Hold My Beer. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: EBH

Thanks for the heads up on Kira Rudik, Ukrainian parliamentarian.

She said “We are fighting for this New World Order.”

Before she was a parliamentarian she was in charge of building Ring Ukraine for Amazon. This gave the Ukraine government complete access to live video from houses all over the country. Ukraine was the one of the largest development centers for Ring. Bezos paid 1B for this tech start up.

The 36-year-old Ukrainian is currently a leader of a political party called Voice and has been a member of the country’s parliament since 2019.

Now I need to go down the Voice rabbit hole...


167 posted on 03/02/2022 4:35:02 AM PST by Doctor Congo
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To: Doctor Congo

Kira Rudik and her Voice Party are big proponents of proportional representation. We have seen that ideology being tried in this country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holos_(political_party)


168 posted on 03/02/2022 4:43:53 AM PST by Doctor Congo
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To: ShadowAce

The end game has not been revealed ...yet.

It will in time.

It is best stand fast, and observe.

There are competing story lines that are contradictory. Putin this, Ukraine that, Biden, Deep State, globalists, NWO, etc. etc.


169 posted on 03/02/2022 4:52:50 AM PST by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intend to RULE.)
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To: clearcarbon

If only someone would.


170 posted on 03/02/2022 4:53:07 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Doctor Congo

Exactly. I have posted several links, several times from reliable sources regarding her. When she said New World Order, she knew exactly what she was saying. It was not lost in translation as many here want to insist.

Putin’s comment of a world without Russia is also telling. Perhaps he thought the WEF couldn’t pull it off. Perhaps the WEF is much, much closer than we realize? Putin is old and the last thing he would want is a legacy that sold Russia’s soul to the New World Order...a world without Russia.

Let’s be honest. These sanctions we are witnessing, have we ever seen anything this severe before? I have been around since the Carter years and my answer to this question is no.

I am not on Putin’s side here, but everyone needs to take that step back. The NWO has decided the destruction of Russia was first and Putin decided to make the first move. He may fail, his people suffer. But his legacy will be he fought back against the NWO, even if he is misunderstood at the present time. If the NWO can bring Putin to heel, they will bring every uncooperative nation into alignment.


171 posted on 03/02/2022 4:56:46 AM PST by EBH (Hold My Beer. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: EBH

“ We actually do not need to back a side. “

Exactly!


172 posted on 03/02/2022 4:58:16 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ShadowAce

Conservatives have to quit believing that everything that happens is the fault of “globalists”.

Putin is a dictator, period, not a Christian saint. He could not stand the democracy in Georgia, he ruined any hope of democracy in Belarus, he’s been meddling in Moldova, and when the people of Ukraine threw out his corrupt stooge he threw a hissy fit and took the Crimea and started to nibble off a couple eastern counties of Ukraine. All because DEMOCRACIES on his border wanted to be more related to the other democracies in Europe than to be subservient to Putin.


173 posted on 03/02/2022 5:06:44 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Williams

“Why don’t you stop your stupid lies. No one was threatening Russia and you know it. NATO wasn’t doing a damn thing to Russia.

People, stop listening to jackasses who tell you Russia needed to destroy Ukraine because it’s next door on a map.

By the way, Putin himself listed a dozen other wacky reasons why he was invading - because Kruschev shouldn’t have “given away” other countries and the Ukrainian leadership are drug addicts and nazis. He said he is de-nazifying the Ukraine.

What he’s doing is seizing the second largest country in Europe, along with its people,resources and strategic position.

Putin doesn’t believe for a second the bullcrap excuses you’re making for him.”

Absolutely. This is a naked land grab. Tyrants always have excuses for why they “had to do it”. It’s all BS. Never thought I’d see the day Freepers would be making excuses for Putin. Those people need to get their heads out of their butts.


174 posted on 03/02/2022 5:21:39 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: kaktuskid

“You don’t blow up children just because the government is “corrupt”.”

Wanna explain why the US was in Afghanistan then?


175 posted on 03/02/2022 5:30:44 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

You must really not own a tv.

We were in Afghanistan because it hosted and refused to give up Osama Bin Laden, who had launched attacks into the United States from roughly 10,000 miles away.

Not because a government was corrupt.


176 posted on 03/02/2022 5:51:39 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: PGR88

“The USA will try to bankrupt Russia, then the USA will bankrupt itself - and China will just be smiling from the sidelines.”

Let you and him fight! —well known saying


177 posted on 03/02/2022 5:53:33 AM PST by dennisw
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To: EBH

Another lunatic heard from. Putin is saving us from the NWO by leveling cities in Ukraine. He’s a noble warrior.

Sickening delusion.


178 posted on 03/02/2022 5:54:19 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

20 years in A’stan for that, huh?

We stayed long after Bin Laden was dead.

We then left the al Qaeda billions in weapons.

Don’t be gullible.


179 posted on 03/02/2022 5:54:33 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

Mission creep on steroids.


180 posted on 03/02/2022 6:00:50 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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