Data is hard to correlate. The vaxxed are out there taking ten times the risk then those that remain unvaxxed.
I’m not vaxed and I live life like I’m invincible... have from the start. Well, that’s not true... for two weeks, my family and I washed our hands more than normal.
I didn’t change my habits. Never got the shot or got covid
A lot of things at play with these numbers. Behavior is one factor. Another factor is the most vulnerable are also the most likely to be triple shot. Would have to normalize the data for age, health, etc. against the unvaxxed population to get a true picture of vaccine effectiveness(or ineffectiveness). The FDA used to be in the business of funding these types of studies. Just another corruption to add to the pile I suppose.
Right. The super vaxxed I know still wear masks and look like beat dogs when you get close to them.
Yeah like me enjoying FIVE cruises since the first jab in February 2021. Cruises are incredibly cheap and staff goes out of their way to please and pamper the passengers. Then add 50+ restaurant visits and 50+ grocery store visits and other regular visits to carry on life as usual.
Guess what, I never got any symptoms, never got sick, no side effects from vaccine, since the 1st jab and now already am triple jabbed. And not taking any zinc, IVM, D vitamin pills.
“The vaxxed are out there taking ten times the risk then those that remain unvaxxed.”
What the hell are you talking about? I’m unvaxxed and I have been going to work every week (on public transit in a ‘hot zone’) because I was deemed “essential”.
Plenty of unvaxxed were front line health care workers until they got fired. Who they hell are you to talk about risk?
The data is so bad for the vax crowd (Pfizer, fda,cdc) that they are fighting FOIA court orders to keep it secret, and the cdc and Scotland ministry of health are withholding data from people- because it *might* lead to vax hesitancy.
That’s ridiculous.
Possibly. On one hand, being vaccinated might give people a false sense of security. Therefore they might be more likely to take risks than un-vaccinated people who are possibly taking more precautions.
On the other hand, the people that remain un-vaccinated now are by and large the IDGAF crowd. Sure some didn't want an experimental vax, but many other just never saw a need for a vax against something they don't see as a significant risk. So they probably haven't really changed their behaviors throughout this goat roping. Meanwhile many of the vaccinated are the most fearful and jumped on it at the first opportunity. These fearful types are more likely to continue to take precautions.
So an argument could be made either way - that the vaxxed or un-vaxxed groups are taking more risks.
The comorbidity argument is a little less even. You would think those most at risk would've been taken out by covid already. In the harshest Darwin terms this is survival of the fittest, or the least un-fit. So there should be fewer people with these contributing conditions, making the vaccines' failures all the more baffling. We should've culled the weak from the herd already.
OTOH two years of lockdowns and closures has contributed to whole new groups with poor diet, poor exercise, lack of outdoor activities, increased alcohol use. So we may have inadvertently created additional at-risk people with obesity, heart disease, diabetes, etc. through our attempts to keep people safe.
In general though, by any objective measure the vaccines have been a failure. They don't prevent you from getting infected - no vaccine does, but they are supposed to tee up your immune system to immediately, effectively fight off the infection. With virtually every other vaccine you never know you might have been exposed to Measles, Mumps, Polio, etc. The covid vaccines apparently do not prevent people from becoming symptomatic or even seriously ill or passing away. The back peddling on the initial prevention claims is now that the vaccines reduce severity of illness, rates of hospitalizations, and rates of death. Some "vaccine" {snort} - it only means you're maybe less sick. Maybe. In my book that's a failure. Even the weasel word justifications of less severe symptoms, less hospitalizations and less risk of death are starting to crack and crumble under the weight of incoming data. If we cannot resume formerly normal, now considered "risky" behaviors under the protection of the vaccines, if we must continue all the other preventative measures - then what good are the vaccines? They were sold as our path back to normal. The vaccine program is a failure.