Posted on 02/27/2022 1:23:27 PM PST by PJ-Comix
Will the Russian military go on strike because of the events in Ukraine? In some ways they have ALREADY gone on strike. The typical Russian soldier has NO motivation to go above and beyond the call of duty. Instead they are doing the least needed to just get by. An example of this was in a video I saw of a Ukrainian driving his car up to a Russian tank that had run out of fuel on a country road. He had sort of friendly banter with the Russian tanker and even some joking around. It was very obvious that the Russian tanker wasn't in the least bit concerned about the success of his army's military operations. Like a lot of other Russians sent to Ukraine, he just wanted to get out of the whole crazy situation alive and go home.
This attitude is probably spreading like wildfire among the other Russians in Ukraine. I've seen more video evidence of this including a captured teenage Russian soldier who cried while being castigated by the Ukrainians.
So do the Russians in the military want to DIE because of one apparent madman, namely Vladimir Putin? Even if no one attempts to actually overthrow him, they could simply NOT follow orders. And that goes not just for the lowly soldiers but his top generals as well.
Let's take it to the extreme. We know that Putin ordered his military on high nuclear alert. Let's assume that things continue going south for the Russians in Ukraine and Putin goes full out bonkers and orders a nuclear strike. Okay, what happens then? Putin can't personally push a button to send off the nukes. Military personnel actually have to follow orders. However, since it is obvious even to the Russians that such an order is INSANE and could lead to a nuclear conflagration that could lead to the end of world civilization as well as Russia itself, do you think such an order would be carried out? Probably not. Or at least let us hope not. Most likely a general on the receiving end of the order would come up with some excuse like, "Gee whiz! I tried to carry out your (insane) order but there was a cyber attack that prevented me from doing so." Likewise, the Russian military also cease operations in Russia. Driving a tank or missile carrier? Rather than be destroyed by an invisible drone above, better to just walk away.
BTW, we already saw something of the military go on strike in Russia when the Soviet Union collapsed. Remember the scenes of tanks sent out to their Russian Federation building after Gorbachev was deposed? They traveled a bit in that direction and just stopped. The soldiers then just hung out with the protestors.
End result of a general strike by the Russian military? Nobody obeys Putin's orders and if he is lucky he is arrested. One interesting outcome is that Putin is then turned over to the Ukrainians for a War Crimes Trial. That would make for some incredible TV ratings but perhaps I am getting ahead of myself.
We already see the outlines of a strike by individual Russian soldiers in the Ukraine so the question is will we also see a general strike EVERYWHERE by the Russian military in which they simply decline to follow Putin's orders?
Too much coffee.
And maybe some glue?
Possible.
I do believe Putin himself is on the line. We are at a key juncture. If Putin can claim a victory, then NATO is exposed as useless. But if Putin fails, if Ukraine holds, if this turns into a bloody mess, Putin himself is finished.
NATO itself may be finished either way. They have been exposed as being of little value in front of an actual Russian invasion.
Hopium is a helluva drug.
I think you are spot on.
Is putin planning on nuking Americans ? It is well known biden threatened to nuke Americans. putin/biden ….. equally detestable
During the Cuban missile crisis wasn’t there a Russian Submarine Officer who refused to go along with launching a nuclear torpedo at the US Navy, which probably adverted a nuclear exchange between Russia and the USA.
I can only hope that our military holds the Biden semi-human object with the same regard as those Russian soldiers are reported to have. At least Russia has a sentient mad man as head. We don’t even have that - since Biden is a DemocRAT and we know the intellectual and moral qualifications for thier leaders.
Right on the coffee but WRONG on the glue. Many years ago a friend of mine thought it would be cool to sniff glue. He squirted glue into a paper bag and took deep breaths from it over and over again to get high. Not too much later he was crumpled up in agony claiming that it felt like the glue vapor resolidified inside his lungs and was suffocating him. He eventually hospitalized. Lucky for him he survived but swore off glue forever which also had me thankful that I never tried nor ever would sniff glue (although I sort of cheated by getting a bit of a buzz making plastic model planes and boats).
It would not surprise me if the Russian Army did not use subjects drafted from Central Asia to fight the Ukrainians. The Soviets used non-Slavic soldiers to suppress rebellions in white nations, e.g. Hungary in 1956. It’s an old tactic: the Romans sent legions from remote parts of the Empire or outlying countries to crush rebellions. So Sarmatians were sent to Britain, and Germans to North Africa.
Our Vietnam veterans answered their call to duty.
Why should the same not be expected of Russian conscripts?
Lots of videos that show Russian soldiers being trained harshly who are high spirited and ready to give their all to save the motherland if called on.
Same thing with the Chinese.
Going to destroy and confiscate the Ukraine and kill lots of innocent people isn’t fighting for the motherland. No shame or treason to question this. No boots on the ground Russian soldier remembers the Cold war, afghanistan, or even chechnya. They did grow up hearing stories of Stalingrad and moving into Germany to stop Hitler. Funny thing is, if they follow orders, Putin is Hitler and they are the jackboot nazis.
The Ukrainians on the other hand are fighting for their homes, families, their land and their pride. That makes for some very motivated defenders.
I suggest multiple ones. No Vodka though.
Yup! And there was also a Russian officer who REFUSED to go ahead with a launch order when there was a false alarm in the Russian defense system in 1983 indicating an all out nuke attack by the USA. I saw a documentary about him that referred to the officer as "The man who saved the world."
His Chechian Guard will be only too willing to take out Ukrainians. The marines heading for Kiev are a like mind.
Not an organized general strike in which angry soldiers demand the ouster of Putin but rather a passive strike in which the military do the least they can get by with and save their own skins. That would including abandoning tanks or any other vehicles that could risk being targeted by invisible drones above.
Do not underestimate the Ruskies will to fight.
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