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The Holodomor, Stalin’s Holocaust Against Ukraine.
Youtube ^ | 2020 | Time Ghost History

Posted on 02/26/2022 4:34:30 AM PST by hardspunned

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In Ukraine, the Russian brutality is long remembered. The Holodomor is but one example. Should the Ukrainians hold out, fight and make this extremely painful for Putin to accomplish, we should not be surprised.
1 posted on 02/26/2022 4:34:30 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

Necessary to remember.


2 posted on 02/26/2022 4:37:44 AM PST by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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The term Holodomor emphasises the famine’s man-made and allegedly intentional aspects such as rejection of outside aid, confiscation of all household foodstuffs and restriction of population movement. As part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country, millions of inhabitants of Ukraine, the majority of whom were ethnic Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine.


3 posted on 02/26/2022 4:51:44 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired

All caused by Communist mismanagement and cruelty.


4 posted on 02/26/2022 4:53:13 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: hardspunned
Yes. This was less than 90 years ago. It happened to the grandparents and great-grandparents of present Ukrainians.

It was less than 10 years before WWII.

Millions of Ukrainians were starved to death by the Russian (and Ukrainian) communists.

5 posted on 02/26/2022 4:58:44 AM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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To: hardspunned

The Holodomor was the Ukrainian part of a broader rural-urban conflict that also affected other agricultural regions of the Soviet Union.

Communist theory as developed in the late 19th Century was primarily a theory of urban economics, focused on the workers. It ignored the peasantry and agricultural production.

In the early decades of the Soviet Union, the theory was applied to create an urban economy of heavy industry that produced more factories, industrial equipment, and arms and ammunition for the military. It did not produce much that could be traded to the peasants in return for food.

Consequently, the peasantry preferred to live as they always had, mainly producing food for their own consumption. There were several attempts to reorganize agricultural production, both by better incentives and by force. They met limited success and securing food for the ever increasing urban worker population continued to be a problem.

Eventually, Stalin solved the problem by sending the military and police into the countryside to requisition the available food supplies. The surviving rural population was put on collective farms and essentially converted from peasants to workers. Getting workers to produce by means of force, rather than incentives, was something that the Stalinist Soviet system could achieve.


6 posted on 02/26/2022 5:02:31 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: hardspunned
I used to work with a Ukrainian guy (legal immigrant)
whose grandparents died during the Holodomor.

Ilya had some very unkind words for Stalin, believe me.

7 posted on 02/26/2022 5:05:17 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: FarCenter

You should take the time to watch the video. Nidel covers all the points you make and expands on the detail. Those Time Ghost guys do a great job!


8 posted on 02/26/2022 5:08:24 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: FarCenter

Getting workers to produce by means of force, rather than incentives, was something that the Stalinist Soviet system could achieve.

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Of course, that took out the initiative to work hard. As a result, Soviet Union was always short of food.
Despite having the best agricultural lands in the world.
Tsarist Russia was the world greatest exporter of foodstuff and Ukraine now is getting there again!


9 posted on 02/26/2022 5:08:33 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: marktwain

If Jews vow to never forget the Holocaust, then Ukrainians get to never forget the Holodomar.

It may provide a reason for them fighting fiercely against the Russians.


10 posted on 02/26/2022 5:09:25 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: hardspunned

All WW2 crimes must be blamed on the Germans, so that FDR’s beloved communists would not be blamed for crimes like the Holomodor.

And never forget that the NY Time covered up the Holomodor to protect communism in the public eye. While millions of Ukrainians starved to death. All to protect communism.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - the Republicans MUST push for a National Holiday to remember the 100s of millions of victims of communism. The younger generations simply do not know because the media does not want them to know. The media wants the younger generation to embrace communism.


11 posted on 02/26/2022 5:22:30 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: hardspunned

BFL


12 posted on 02/26/2022 5:40:23 AM PST by The FIGHTIN Illini (Wake up fellow Patriots before it's too late)
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To: imabadboy99

Well said!


13 posted on 02/26/2022 5:47:38 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: hardspunned
Uncle Walter at the NYT told us otherwise.
14 posted on 02/26/2022 6:01:22 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: hardspunned

There is a movie called “Bitter harvest” dealing with this tragedy. Very nice, but really tragic.
Never seen so many dead bodies in one movie!


15 posted on 02/26/2022 6:35:37 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: hardspunned

The N. Y. Times Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer for hiding the mass starvation from their readers. They still proudly display that Pulitzer to this day.


16 posted on 02/26/2022 9:06:41 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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What do communist Ukrainians have to do to get attention now days? Communism does this to its own people. Not free peoples in Free Nations. It’s coming here if we do not stop our own internal communists.

Why should I be concerned with Communists without when we have so many within?
17 posted on 02/26/2022 10:44:50 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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...FDR’s beloved communists...

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FDR fixed ag prices to the point of forcing farmers to dump milk and destroy crops & livestock.

I once asked my mother, a devout democrat & a city girl, about this and she snapped:”At least the farmers _had_ food.”

It is a common leftist ploy, divide and rule.


18 posted on 02/27/2022 9:09:22 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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If Jews vow to never forget the Holocaust, then Ukrainians get to never forget the Holodomar.

Only the Holodomor was real and never received the attention and condemnation it deserved.

19 posted on 02/27/2022 9:20:52 PM PST by Robwin ( )
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To: AZJeep

A movie came out in 2019 called “Mr. Jones”, about the reporter Walter Jones who exposed the famine in the Ukraine to the western world.


20 posted on 02/27/2022 9:27:34 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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