Posted on 02/12/2022 3:12:25 PM PST by BusterDog
Check out post #3. Do you have the data?
Not to mention if you die within 14 day of being vaccinated you die “unvaccinated” according to their stats.
Yes, the first guy to speak say in his 17 years in the sport he has never seen anybody leave the field with heart issues.
Controversy, the quote below is partial, there’s more at the link.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport-idUSL1N2T81NY
Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.
Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.
A mixture of sporting levels is included which range from professional, semi-professional, amateur, retired, youth (under 15 years old), high school and college.
There are also four soccer coaches listed among the names, as well as one body building coach, one cricket teacher, one athletics trainer, a golf caddie, a marching band member and a doctor who died while out jogging.
I know there were several collapsed (5 in 2 weeks), but I need to see a verified list of names.
For a scientific examination of from a medical perspective, sit back and read this piece from the “PubMed Central® (PMC).” It has 43 references and it gives one caution when they see these statements, “Before performing these exercises, please consult a physician.” Here is the link to the piece entitled, “Sudden Cardiac Death in Athletes”:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/
Risk of myocarditis following mRNA COVID vaccination is around 133 times greater than the background risk in the population
“Myocarditis after vaccination, firm data” [Official JAMA report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb1Xm1uaedU&t
My bet is the refusenik rate for our pros is a lot higher than the Euroweenies.
Despite what the leagues state.
See my number 24. This article has been debunked several times. The list of names includes people in their 60’s and people from numerous other sports, and completely unconnected people.
I’m not vaxxed BTW and I don’t think the vaxxes have plenty of problems. I don’t think this article is any good either.
Fake news can come from any side. Sometimes it’s a setup.
The first time I read a story similar to this on Free Republic I did exactly what you did. I looked to see how many people normally die in soccer from heart issues and found that there’s really nothing new going on here. It’s like people don’t know the difference between anecdotal evidence and actual data anymore.
My 2021 list with names and news sources:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3988541/posts?page=357#357
Some Stats compiled from the list:
Some stats from the list, above.
350 unusual health events among athletes total (so far, at least the ones who made the news) for 2021 (from age 16-53). 235 of these events occurred in athletes 35 and younger. 146 aged 25 and under, and 93 were aged 20 and under.
175 collapses during practice, training, game, or immediately after
165 heart related events (106 heart attacks, 11 myocarditis, 7 pericarditis, 5 arrhythmia)
Other events: 13 clots, 9 strokes, 4 seizures
192 total deaths
129 unusual Soccer events including: - 88 collapses during game or training - 80 are under the age of 25 - 71 mention heart issues (45 cardiac arrest, 3 arrhythmia, 5 myocarditis/pericarditis) - 62 deaths (39 deaths age 30 and under)
30 unusual Football health events including: - 21 younger than 20 - 22 deaths - 16 collapses happened during games or training - 7 cardiac-related, 3 seizure-related
25 unusual Running/track related events: - 17 deaths - 13 cardiac events - 17 happened during training or in races/meets
Several other sports have also have events but the above are the top 3
It is not a normal vaccine. Normal vaccines provide long term protection not three month protection. Normal vaccines don't require periodic boosters.
A normal vaccine works for everyone. Since lots of fully vaccinated individuals catch the disease all the current “vaccines” are just shots of something which don't protect 100% of the recipients, therefore they are neither normal vaccines nor are they effective.
Since lots of people experience bad reactions to the shots, these “vaccines” are not safe! Evidently people die.
Not enough
“people don’t know the difference between anecdotal evidence and actual data anymore.”
If a former soccer player dies, it means don’t take the vaccines! See how it works?
Thanks for your post #15. I hate it when anti vaccine people try to imply this is just from the COVID vaccine.
It is the theory that the more one pays attention to something, the more likely they are to discover it (ie, I just bought a new car of x brand, now I see x brand everywhere). What cracks me up is the so called people who push the narrative of the dangers of the vaccines are so unversed in scientific methodology that they cannot ask the very basic question as to what occurs prior to the change being introduced into the system so that they may evaluate the actual data against the baseline.
It demonstrates that even here, people are wiling to spread fake news to advance their particular agenda.
what evidence do you have of this hypothesis?
When they first enter the field, they look for a nice place to grab their heart and fall over.
You are engaging in a red herring argument. In the vast majority of cases myocarditis “is brief, self limited, and of mild symptoms”. The baseline number of cardiac events in soccer players is not statistically significantly greater after the introduction of vaccinations.
Additionally, it is not unreasonable to understand that athletes have a high incidence of cardiac issues related to connective tissue disorders. But, this would require an actual understanding of pathology rather than a cutting and pasting of an article that is unrelated.
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