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To: ought-six

The “hot” civil war is over since 2015, with the de-facto independence of the rebel areas.
Both Russia and Ukraine do not want to escalate it.
The Russian objective is to return Donbas and Lugansk to Ukraine on terms fixed in Minsk agreements and be done with it.
Nothing indicates the opposite, except Western agitation, encouraging Ukraine to forcefully return the breakaway republics and label the hostilities the “Russian aggression”.


33 posted on 02/12/2022 10:52:42 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Ukraines President Zelensky has been saying that he had not seen intelligence indicating an imminent Russian attack, and that “too much information” about a possible offensive was sowing unnecessary fear.

(NY Times reported)


35 posted on 02/12/2022 12:15:18 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: NorseViking

Well, your posting history indicates you are a staunch Russian apologist, so your comments about this matter should be taken with that in mind.

Ah, yes, the Minsk Agreements. The agreements that Russia said it (Russia) was not bound by since it (Russia) was not an involved party in the civil war (yet Russia was the principal behind the agreements). The same agreements that were totally silent on Russia’s annexation of Crimea, thus tacitly accepting Russia’s annexation of Crimea. The same agreements that Russia insists gives the Donbas autonomy (which, of course, would allow Russia to call the shots there and influence Ukrainian policy). Of course Russia likes the agreements, because Russia is the biggest winner in those agreements.


38 posted on 02/12/2022 1:12:57 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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