Posted on 02/07/2022 10:55:27 AM PST by BenLurkin
The rates were worse before. And as in all of aviation, they improve decade by decade. Before 96, the rate was what it was with only the unquestioned best being accepted. If they pushed through unqualified women for political reasons it would have been even higher.
Your simping is boring and should embarrass you.
“Retired people usually do. We all pick our hobbies.”
I am retired, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to spend an hour nitpicking someone else’s comment. To each his own, I guess.
“You said the standards were lowered after about 1995. If that is correct one would expect far more unqualified pilots and that would likely be evidenced by higher accident rates and more deaths wouldn’t it?”
No. You are way outside your area of information. It indicates a continuing improvement in equipment and techniques. Had unqualified people been allowed through for political EEOC reasons back then, that already high rate would have been horrifyingly worse. Essentially, its saying that was the best we could do *back then* with very strict standards, and it could have been made worse by politically correctness.
“More like I have other things I should be doing but I indulge myself occasionally.”
Well, if it makes you happy, go on nitpicking. If you want, I’ll start insulting you and calling you names in the traditional FR manner so you can respond in kind. Just say the word.
So what does that have to do with flying airplanes off of aircraft carriers.
I suppose her ejection seat was defective, too.
What it has to do with crashing airplanes off aircraft carriers is that both are caused by the same irrational belief system that makes a man into a "woman" admiral.
That irrationality in our government, and now in our military, makes bad decisions which are destructive to us all.
I was under the impression that you were being dismissive of my first comment to you, and if I was mistaken about this, then I apologize. If I am not mistaken, then my subsequent commentary was responding in kind.
Nowadays one cannot tell if someone is being serious or not.
I wouldn't either. An hour is too much time. I usually manage to nitpick someone else's comment within less than a minute.
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I made specific references and you are respond by imagining or implying some statistical idea. That speaks for itself.
Lt. Hultgreen had more than 1,240 hours of flying time in the F-14 Tomcat and had landed on a carrier some 58 times, 17 times at night.
I think that is more than qualified to fly the F-14. Apparently, so did her Air Boss, and her teammates.
So, were the 10 other pilots that crashed and died from 1992 to 1994 failures and it was there fault, too?
10 F-14 pilots were killed in accidents between the years of 1992 and 1994.
I completely that the quality of discourse, quality of the commentary, and original articles has gone way down.
The change happened when JimRob banned anyone who dared to disagree that Trump was the only option for the Republican nomination for President. Even a slight disagreement got many of the best Freepers banned.
If their careers were in jeopardy if they didn't say she was qualified, would you expect anything different?
I read it all the time until it stopped being conservative.
That is incorrect. I believe you have been misled by the attempts to mislead in this article. Someone posted it upthread. She had 1,240 hours of flying time total, but she only had something like 217 in the F14. (If I remember the number correctly.)
I also believe those hours were fraught with mistakes, again as someone posted upthread.
I think that is more than qualified to fly the F-14. Apparently, so did her Air Boss, and her teammates.
When the President insists, you don't contradict him.
So, were the 10 other pilots that crashed and died from 1992 to 1994 failures and it was there fault, too?
Those that died from failures were likely not at fault. For those that died of pilot error, it was certainly their fault.
Hultgreen died from pilot error. She stalled the compressor of her left engine by shadowing it's air intake. You are not supposed to do that, and Navy pilots have this drilled into their heads over and over again.
The lying media and the lying government claimed it was mechanical failure, but it was not mechanical failure, it was pilot error.
10 F-14 pilots were killed in accidents between the years of 1992 and 1994.
Well since you have gone to the trouble to look up that information, pray tell us which of those were caused by pilot error, and which were caused by equipment failure.
It’s less than a second between the back seat launching, and then the front seat.
He survived, she didn’t.
Amazing how fast it can go from you survive, to, your dead in high performance military aircraft.
Most of her hours were in EA-6A Prowlers, a electronics warfare variant of the A-6 intruder. Both were very stable platforms and did not require nearly the same level of skill to fly.
Towards the end of my dad’s 30-year Navy career, he was the Maintenance Chief and then the Leading Chief in an A-6 squadron during two cruises on Yankee Station off the coast of Viet Nam on the early 1970s.
If you have read the book or seen the movie “Flight of the Intruder”, there was a section where a Bombadier-Navigator was hit in the neck by an AK-47 round. He bled out before they could land. That actually was a real event in my dad’s squadron. My mom told me that my dad cried when he read that part of the book.
People talk about how close Marines are to fellow Marines. It’s nothing compared to what it is in a Navy squadron.
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