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What The Ford Pinto Case Can Teach Us Almost 50 Years Later
RisCassi & Davis ^ | 11-21-2018 | RisCassi & Davis P.C

Posted on 01/22/2022 4:47:04 PM PST by Brookhaven

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To: arthurus

The only “immunity” conferred by the vaccines is that of Big Pharma against lawsuits.


21 posted on 01/22/2022 5:36:28 PM PST by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: Brookhaven

“Yup – that’s not a typo. Ford spent millions to lobby against car safety.”

Now they simply RUBBER STAMP everything the government tells them, even when it’s stupid - like selling electric cars that no one wants.


22 posted on 01/22/2022 5:42:27 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Brookhaven

You don’t have to go back that far

Gm did the same thing with the ignition locks that failed in late 2000s gm cars.


23 posted on 01/22/2022 5:49:20 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: Brookhaven

Many times the addition of forced ‘safety improvements’ wind up killing more people than not doing them. For example, the national building codes now mandate sprinkler systems in all new (and substantially remodeled) housing. What happens next is that the cost of major renovations and rebuilds gets that much higher...so many people hang on to their old units without ever upgrading (look at some of the apartments in NYC if you want to see an extreme example of where that leads).

And since new housing, even without sprinklers, is FAR SAFER than very old housing...those few people who are saved by sprinklers are far outnumbered by those who die from fires or electrocution in old houses.

Safety is a BALANCE...extreme/costly measures forcing ‘safety improvements’ are often as counterproductive (and deadly) as not forcing very cheap improvements (like GFCI receptacles).


24 posted on 01/22/2022 5:51:16 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Brookhaven

Not as reprehensible as the GM key problem. Death toll was lower, but they left on girl to rot in prison as part of the cover up. The senior GM execs should have been left to rot in a Texas prison, but they all sailed free with their years of huge bonuses.


25 posted on 01/22/2022 5:52:33 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Secret Agent Man

Take a look, that’s a young Michael Moore

https://youtu.be/e9f9lsbctZA


26 posted on 01/22/2022 5:57:12 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: Brookhaven
"Yes – burning Pintos had finally become a public embarrassment for Ford."

Ford never could make a gas tank that was safe according to my grandfather people were blowing themselves up because they were lighting a match to see if there was gas in the tank.

27 posted on 01/22/2022 6:11:18 PM PST by the_daug ( )
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To: muir_redwoods

“And if they put governors on every car limiting top speed to 55mph they would save even more lives.”

Back when 55 was the speed limit, I had a 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne with a straight-6, three on the tree with a mechanical Overdrive. It loved 55 mph. It was smooth cruising. So I reaken 55mph being fast or slow really depends on the equipment set.

I still drive the speed limit, right hand lane, music on, takin’ a cruise... that’s how I roll.


28 posted on 01/22/2022 6:15:47 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Interesting, thanks for posting

Although that looks like maybe 1/3 of a Michael Moore. :)


29 posted on 01/22/2022 6:18:43 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Brookhaven

We’ve learned thst bean-counters can easily ruin a car design.

CC


30 posted on 01/22/2022 6:24:44 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: cableguymn

“Gm did the same thing with the ignition locks that failed...”

After the third problem with the wife’s Malibu, piece of s*** Malibu I might add, I was told that the problem was that the key fob and key ring full of keys was too heavy and to only use the key. Surprisingly that actually worked.

But that wasn’t good enough for me I just wired in a hidden kill switch and a start button... everything worked fine after that. Besides, Camry’s were the cars to steal not the lowly Malibu.


31 posted on 01/22/2022 6:27:06 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Brookhaven

Car companies make these calculations all the time. The Pinto was a great little cheap car. Want a safer car? Pay more. The Pinto case taught us that Americans want media and government to determine who should manufacture what, and how, and what people should buy. It was: Burn up in a Pinto? Sue Ford. Ford won’t make products for long that lose money or embarrass the brand. Now it’s: no Pintos. No cheap cars. No fast cars. Speed governors. Thousands of regulations. Outrageously complicated injection systems. A whole car industry uilt on the debt Americans incur to drive a Gov-mobile.


32 posted on 01/22/2022 7:15:57 PM PST by golux
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To: dfwgator
 
 
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33 posted on 01/22/2022 7:18:39 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Brookhaven

I’m on my second car, a Honda Accord, just like my first car.

If and when my 1999 Accord finally is done, even if Honda no longer makes any more Honda’s with combustion engines, my third Honda Accord will be ... borrowed...after the collapse hits.

THAT is how much I trust Honda over any other auto companies.


34 posted on 01/22/2022 7:29:52 PM PST by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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To: Brookhaven
if only we could have just stuck to burning other stuff like Canada


35 posted on 01/22/2022 7:38:17 PM PST by algore
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To: Brookhaven

Some years after this fiasco, I read a blip buried in the middle of the newspaper that after testing, NTSB(?) determined that the Pinto was actually safer than competing Japanese cars of the time in case of rearend collision.

Of course they buried it and mentioned it only one time so as to not spoil the narrative the American companies are evil.


36 posted on 01/22/2022 8:02:19 PM PST by Clay Moore (Make Jan. 6 Ashli Babbitt Remembrance Day)
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To: muir_redwoods

No go. The essence of good transportation is speed.


37 posted on 01/22/2022 8:49:50 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Brookhaven

Ford Pinto? Bought a new one in 1970 when they first came out after graduating college. Had the piece of crap 10 months before unloading it for a bug. Great car. Then traded it in for a Ford Maverick. Another 10 month wonder piece of crap. Then Iacocca moved to Chrysler. I started buying Dodges. Also, pieces of crap. I guess I never learn. Love Iacocca as a superior marketeer (after all, he sold me), but hate his cars. lol


38 posted on 01/22/2022 11:09:15 PM PST by chuckee
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To: Brookhaven

Almost every line in that Article was a lie, and has been proven to be a hoax. This is an advertisement by a law firm of Ambulance Chasers.


39 posted on 01/23/2022 4:30:17 AM PST by Vikon99 (-Yeah, I make very complex things.)
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To: fella

I had two- of them. Got rear ended in one and did not blow up. They were great little cars, comfortable, easy to work on. and good on gas. The Tort lawyers got after the Pinto like they went after the Chevy Monza. Juries were fed a lot of bushwah by the Tort lawyers.


40 posted on 01/23/2022 4:33:19 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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