[House Atreides]

I had a cold last week. There’s a good chance that had I not been Moderna vaccinated last year I would not have gotten that cold. Ergo, Moderna causes colds a year later. Don’t look for logic… I’m trying to fit in here.

[roving]

You are rarely logical. You never address the subject. Instead, you try and sound above everyone else with your lack of comedy skills.

[Secret Agent Man]

you dont have to use a phony logic example at all

use one all the covax lovers and pushers have been using all along

“If I wasn’t vaxxed my covid case would have been worse”

completely impossible to prove, no way to prove that on any individual basis

[week 71]

My unvaxxed daughter had c-19 two weeks ago. Got diagnosed, had a fever for a day and a half and then felt great. We know it would have been worse if she were vaccinated. (obviously that statement is ridiculously unprovable) But I seemed to have heard the sentiment from a different angle recently. Can’t remember where - hmmm.....

[metmom]

Suddenly stats and numbers don’t mean anything to you????

[2nd Amendment]

I’m thankful someone tries to inject sanity into this topic. Some research quoted by Dr. John Campbell shows up to 44x less hospitalization among the elderly after vaccination.

[rdcbn1]

We have two cohorts - vaccinated and unvaccinated. Both are statistically significant and distinct segments of the population. We have known for a long time that the all of the available vaccines efficacy decline rapidly after several months. The developing data is showing that the vaccinated cohort is more likely to get covid infections than the unvaccinated cohort - hence the negative effectiveness. This is not supposed to happen with a vaccine. A vaccine is a tool used to prevent infection and the vaccines are simply not preventing infection over time and precentage wise, more vaccinated people are getting covid than unvacinated . There are a number of possible reasons for this ineffectiveness and the truth will eventually come out over time as research uncovers the mechanisms. It is a cannon of medical ethics that you don't force ineffective and potentially dangerous treatments, vaccines included, on a population. The vaccines seem to have become like bitterly factionalized politics as opposed to medical tools