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After 28 Days on Ventilator, Family Loses Legal Battle to Try Ivermectin, Other Alternative Treatments, for Dying Father
Epoch times ^ | Jan 16, 2022 | Nanette Holt

Posted on 01/17/2022 10:14:47 AM PST by upchuck

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To: upchuck

More discussion of this case here:

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21 posted on 01/17/2022 10:43:38 AM PST by CatHerd (It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.)
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To: fuzzylogic
This is criminal imo but we all know why...

That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

22 posted on 01/17/2022 10:45:01 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: cranked

The lawyer should slap that down in front of the judge and say “explains this then!. My c,isn’t is dying, and you won’t allow him, on his own, the right to take a medicine that well could save his life? Have we really become that depraved in this country that we deny someone the right to try something that cou,d save their life? To try something that even our mi,Italy has allowed their members, and which congress has been allowed to take?”

The satanic evil emanating from the power hungry folks in positions over us is unreal these days.


23 posted on 01/17/2022 10:50:31 AM PST by Bob434
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To: upchuck

Criminal


24 posted on 01/17/2022 10:51:07 AM PST by mykroar (There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. - Sun Tzu)
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To: upchuck

So basically don’t go to the hospital in FL either.


25 posted on 01/17/2022 10:51:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Alberta's Child
I feel bad for this family, but let's be frank here. When you check into a hospital you are surrendering a lot of your control over the course of treatment you will get.

Can not a private doctor practice medicine in a hospital? Most people are almost unprepared for this situation and only some of them wise up when the time comes. Shouldn't mean that it justifies a death sentence.

26 posted on 01/17/2022 10:52:42 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: ransomnote

Ping.


27 posted on 01/17/2022 10:52:54 AM PST by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: upchuck
FWIW.....Ivermectin this far in to the course of the DZ..is prolly worthless.

Viagra should be tried...IMO.

But I'm not a Doc..nor do I play one on T.V.

28 posted on 01/17/2022 10:54:25 AM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: Karl Spooner
Good points.

All I'm saying is that there's a reason why the Amish folks in my neck of the woods haven't given one millionth of a sh!t about COVID, or about any of this Branch Covidian hysteria and totalitarian government and industry rules, since March 2020.

29 posted on 01/17/2022 10:54:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: upchuck
Twenty eight days is a long time to be on a ventilator. They likely trached him by now, unless he is defying their odds that he would have been dead 2 weeks ago.
30 posted on 01/17/2022 10:54:55 AM PST by Radix (Politicians; the Law and the Profits.)
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To: upchuck

It is not wanted nor desired by the Powers That Be that the father survives.


31 posted on 01/17/2022 10:57:09 AM PST by sport
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To: momtothree

Actually, a person on a ventilator with a tracheotomy can eat,drink, and take a pill. It is quite common.


32 posted on 01/17/2022 10:58:47 AM PST by Radix (Politicians; the Law and the Profits.)
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To: alternatives?
Why can’t they just slip him a pill when they visit.

Be wonderful if they could.

But try these reasons:
1. He's on a ventilator which means his stomach is blocked by the vent.
2. He may be in a medically induced coma.

33 posted on 01/17/2022 10:59:22 AM PST by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: Osage Orange
Ivermectin this far in to the course of the DZ..is prolly worthless.

There have been quite a few cases now where judges have ordered hospitals to administer Ivermectin to late stage Covid patients on ventilators, and they all improved immediately and survived. Haven't you seen the newspaper postings here about that?

34 posted on 01/17/2022 11:01:24 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: upchuck

Hospitals are being heavily incentivized to use Remdesivir and ventilators. They also have legal protection using the CDC and NIH protocols

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree/id1227863378


35 posted on 01/17/2022 11:14:12 AM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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To: Osage Orange
Ivermectin this far in to the course of the DZ..is prolly worthless.

Follow up:

After judge orders hospital to use experimental Covid-19 treatment, woman recovers

“This lady was on a ventilator, literally on her deathbed, before she was given this drug,” Lorigo told The Buffalo News about Smentkiewicz, a Cheektowaga resident. “As far as we’re concerned, the judge’s order saved this woman’s life.”

On Jan. 2, Smentkiewicz was given her first dose of Ivermectin, and according to court papers filed by her family, she made “a complete turnaround.”

“In less than 48 hours, my mother was taken off the ventilator, transferred out of the Intensive Care Unit, sitting up on her own and communicating,” Kulbacki said in a court affidavit.

Judge orders hospital to use Ivermectin

36 posted on 01/17/2022 11:17:15 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: cableguymn

That’s because they want the death payment from the Feds. Wretched vermin.


37 posted on 01/17/2022 11:38:42 AM PST by fretzer
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To: upchuck

Powerful lawyers waiting in the wings.


38 posted on 01/17/2022 11:47:47 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Karl Spooner
I said probably worthless...

Did I say don't try it. No...I did not say that.

I actually work sometimes in a Hosp. And IF my loved one was COVID POS and on a vent...I'd be asking/demanding...alternative TX's..

And I hate that...MD's/ DO's...have set standards of care..orders. And many times will not deviate.

39 posted on 01/17/2022 11:48:09 AM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: upchuck
The trachea is ‘blocked’ by the vent, the esophagus is not, unless there were a fistula or something. They do have tubes which protect both, but they are unusual in the ICUs. It may be different in the ORs, I spent relatively little time there.
40 posted on 01/17/2022 11:48:37 AM PST by Radix (Politicians; the Law and the Profits.)
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