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Question: Do you really think the FED will raise rates?
1/17/22 | Me

Posted on 01/17/2022 8:11:41 AM PST by millenial4freedom

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To: millenial4freedom
Think of the worst thing that could happen.

Then Rene the democrats are in charge.

Proceed from there.

41 posted on 01/17/2022 8:30:28 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: CodeToad
...investors have few places to put cash for investing.

Very true.

Many economists think the US dollar is going to weaken because of what's going on. Just like in 2008 - they're very wrong.

I plan on moving assets to treasuries when the time is right.

One hint for the investor - stop looking at what's going on in the US and look around the world. That will show you the proper economic signals before it hits the US.

One more hint...China real estate...

42 posted on 01/17/2022 8:30:40 AM PST by politicket
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To: DannyTN
Kathie Wood also has been saying we will see deflation instead of inflation.

ROFL @ Kathie Wood. I'm sorry, she has zero credibility with me.

43 posted on 01/17/2022 8:30:58 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SaxxonWoods

Many old folks are invested (heavily) in Bond Funds and individual Bond issues. If they continue losing $$ (as they have been) , Biden will become an obscenity on every bathroom wall in every retirement home in America.


44 posted on 01/17/2022 8:31:09 AM PST by donozark (Awaiting the arrival of Biden's Black Marias...)
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To: politicket
time to shift assets from equities in the stock market to protect yourselves financially.

I agree. In nearly 40 years of investing, I've never been as concerned as I am now that the Mother of All Crashes (sans, 1929) is likely just around the corner.

Go look at CAPE10. Second highest IN HISTORY. Stocks are hugely over-valued (as are bonds). Inflation is soaring. The Fed is in a trap with nowhere to go.

The likelihood this scenario ends well is not high.

45 posted on 01/17/2022 8:31:27 AM PST by jstolzen
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To: PGR88

Agree entirely. The Fed is very political. Plus, it will want to be restrained going into the election season, which is not that far away. So yes, probably just a few raises.


46 posted on 01/17/2022 8:31:42 AM PST by Starboard
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To: millenial4freedom

The FED tends to follow the market on interest rates, and the market has priced in 3 small hikes this year.

It’s possible the FED will pay lip service to the market until data turns around and the market no long prices in the change.

It’s also possible they make one increase and then lower expectations.


47 posted on 01/17/2022 8:32:25 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: cuban leaf

yep, they have to


48 posted on 01/17/2022 8:32:57 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ClearCase_guy

“the Fall elections (if at all honest) will devastate the Democrats”

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And bring in the Republicans appeasers. They like spending too.


49 posted on 01/17/2022 8:34:06 AM PST by Starboard
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To: CodeToad
No way. If anything, many companies in the stock market will greatly benefit from inflation and higher interest rates.

Especially those sitting on huge piles of cash like oh, say Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple ...

50 posted on 01/17/2022 8:34:28 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: millenial4freedom

We have bad inflation. What way do you combst inflation other than to raise rates.

We’ve kept rates so low over 15 years, did we think inflation wasn’t going to bite us?


51 posted on 01/17/2022 8:35:20 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: millenial4freedom

I wouldn’t buy one of their bonds if they offered it at +100%.


52 posted on 01/17/2022 8:35:35 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: millenial4freedom

Never going to happen before the midterm...


53 posted on 01/17/2022 8:35:56 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: PeterPrinciple
IT works until it doesn’t. Don’t you think that was the situation with the major world power?

The fact that our entire monetary system (and those of virtually the entire world) are based on debt means that games can be played for centuries.

"Debt" is simply the promise to pay back money with either our individual future labor, and/or the future labor of others.

All "money" we hold is just "claims on the future labor of others" - which is why we can use those claims to pay off debt in any form. Once the debt goes away - then the claim on the future labor of that debt also vanishes (the money supply goes down by the amount of the debt paid off).

If one understands this concept, then it can be seen that "claims on future labor" can be made infinitely. It's sort of like on big ponzi scheme.

54 posted on 01/17/2022 8:36:10 AM PST by politicket
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To: usconservative

“Higher interest rates are coming, time to shift assets from equities in the stock market to protect yourselves financially.”

Not exactly.

Diversification is at work at all times. Investors have already adjusted their portfolios into stocks and other investments (real estate, energy, materials, collectibles etc. that do well under inflation. They’ve lowered their tech stock exposure for example because tech is what suffers most under higher rates.

I’m already adjusted and just waiting, watching and collecting dividends now. Having been through much higher inflation this is nothing new to us old folks.

Within 3 years the FED and the markets will be more worried about deflation than inflation.


55 posted on 01/17/2022 8:38:27 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: Rurudyne
I wouldn’t buy one of their bonds if they offered it at +100%.

Your loss. I went to treasuries in 2007 when I saw the economic tsunami approaching the US from Europe. Sure saved our financial bacon when everything collapsed.

I got rid of equities, cashed out the 401K and paid the penalty, cashed out a SEP and paid the penalty - all to go into short-term treasuries (US Treasury Bills).

56 posted on 01/17/2022 8:38:28 AM PST by politicket
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To: DannyTN

Kathie Wood also has been saying we will see deflation instead of inflation.

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Have you looked at her ARKK fund lately? I wouldn’t put too much stock into her opinions.


57 posted on 01/17/2022 8:39:58 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SaxxonWoods
Investors have already adjusted their portfolios into stocks and other investments (real estate, energy, materials, collectibles etc. that do well under inflation.

I believe the deflationary monster is going to hit a lot sooner than 3 years. If so, then the investments you mentioned for the short term aren't going to perform well.

58 posted on 01/17/2022 8:40:02 AM PST by politicket
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To: politicket

If one understands this concept, then it can be seen that “claims on future labor” can be made infinitely. It’s sort of like on big ponzi scheme.


there is an end to all ponzi schemes....................


59 posted on 01/17/2022 8:41:53 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: politicket

Never feed the pig.


60 posted on 01/17/2022 8:44:32 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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