It is absurd to call it a "sticky wicket" or liken it to any other kind of intellectual trap.
You are setting up a straw man by asserting that because the prisoners received Ivermectin without their approval, that we who oppose vaccination without our approval are somehow in support of this.
There is no intellectual dishonesty in this discussion except yours. There is no hypocrisy here, except yours.
About the worst transgression was the poster at #2 who I don't believe intended to convey in that post that these prisoners were wrong to take issue with being given a drug off label. There is nobody here saying that, and a lot of people more correctly focused on the active and inhumane suppression of off-label drugs by the government entities and the health care providers themselves, which I am a part of and, ostensibly, you are too.
By being employed in this profession and slavishly (to the point of legal disciplinary action) adhering to provided treatment algorithms (which were formed by government entities with underlying political agendas, the "CDC Guidelines") which they implemented into individual hospital policy, we became part of that and are ourselves complicit in hundreds of thousands of needless deaths.
The fact that Ivermectin is or is not effective has absolutely zero to do with the fact that people were given medications without their approval, and EVERYTHING to do with denigrating the absolutely humane and safe approval of a drug off-label to provide aid and comfort where little or no effective treatment exists.
You appear to lead people to believe you are a physician of some kind. Perhaps you are. Not only is Ivermectin safe as it has been used in millions of people with little to no side effects, it is cheap, it has been shown to provide benefit to patients if given early.
It seems to me that IVM and HCQ are perfect drugs for legal off-label use which society has traditionally granted to physicians in cases where there is no effective treatment, unless you are one of those who believes telling people to stay home and drink fluids until you have difficulty breathing then coming in and getting steroids, Remdesivir, and a ventilator is "effective treatment".
Oh, but wait. Now we have some monoclonal antibodies we can give that are helpful so they injected that into the treatment algorithms, unless the government wants to use it as a political weapon against your state and deny your state access to them.
Of course, many medical people (and non-experts, possibly including you) think that having people stay at home and drink lots of fluid while the virus rapidly growing in their bodies to cause even more damage in their lungs is "effective and humane" treatment.
I was only surprised that you and/or the article didn't call it "horse dewormer".
Your straw man attack is dishonest and meant as a weapon in discourse against people who might not see your sleight of hand to allow you to paint them as hypocritical.
I work in healthcare and have for nearly forty years. I am ashamed of what our profession has done in this crisis, and we will someday be held to an honest account for our refusal to allow these drugs with antiviral properties to be taken. Even worse, to deliberately demonize with falsehoods those physicians who have given them to patients by actively attempting to destroy their reputations, their licenses, and ultimately their livelihoods.
By working in this field, I bear some portion of responsibility which I have no choice but to sorrowfully accept. Would that everyone in "our" profession accept their same portion of responsibility that is due them. But they won't, because most will hide behind the fig leafs of treatment algorithms implemented at their hospital and truthfully say that they would have to adhere to those or expose themselves to a malpractice suit if something goes wrong with the patient and they are sued.
So, at no time did they think to ask what this pill or that blob of goo was before they chugged it down. Such intelligence. It’s no wonder they’re in prison.
Aren’t they trying to force the J6 political prisoners to take the vax??
I think you are confused by the use of sarcasm. There are many treatments for COVID that are effective thanks to doctors thinking outside the box. It is our government and medical society which have banned use and discussion of alternative drugs to fight COVID. Doctors are losing their licenses over using alternative treatments. The problem is the government actions. I was just pointing out that this government should be held to the same standards they force on our medical practicers or stop the lies which have killed millions.
Four inmates at a northwest Arkansas jail sued the facility and its doctor Thursday after they said were unknowingly prescribed ivermectin to treat Covid-19
I have learned that when people cannot answer a simple question -- and there is a lot of verbiage, then it speaks for itself. It was a simple question -- there is a complain that patients were unknowingly prescribed a drug with off label uses. This is a fundamental violation of bioethics and medical practice. It is, how many have said about vaccination (which people had knowledge of receiving) Menglesque. I am really surprised by the vociferous defenses of -- well if they are ok (not even causation) then they should shut up and say thanks. Do you support the administration of a medication to a patient in off label capacity without their knowledge. A yes or no will suffice.