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School personnel shouldn’t use handcuffs on students, lawmaker proposes
floridaphoenix.com ^ | January 13, 2022 | Danielle J. Brown -

Posted on 01/14/2022 9:43:42 AM PST by Morgana

In Florida’s public school system, school personnel can use handcuffs, zip-ties, straightjackets or other devices on students who are acting out or misbehaving in a way that poses a threat to themselves or others.

But legislation filed in the 2022 legislative session would prohibit school personnel from using those methods — potentially sparing students, especially those with disabilities, from a traumatic experience.

Only school resource officers, school safety officers, school guardians, or school security guards would still be able to use these restraints on students in grades 6 through 12 — but not younger children.

“The younger the child, the smaller they are,” said Rep. Rene Plasencia, the sponsor of HB 235. “It’s easier to use the right, the appropriate methods of making sure they don’t harm anyone else or harm themselves. As a child gets larger it becomes a little more challenging.”

Plasencia builds off previous legislative efforts to limit how teachers and other school personnel handle students who might be acting out in a dangerous manner.

“We want to make sure that no parent sends their child to school and the child comes home with bruises, or the child comes home with some kind of stress that could have been avoided,” Plasencia said Thursday at a House education subcommittee meeting.

The previous legislation dealing with this topic, which was sponsored by former Rep. Bobby DuBose, added language into Florida law that limited the use of restraints on students.

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To: Morgana

I must be older than you.
When I was in school our teachers had the authority to use corporal punishment. I got it on ass with a ping pong paddle for fighting with another student and giving the phys-ed teacher crap.
Paddles don’t hurt much. Humiliation takes a chunk out of you, though.
And in the future I behaved.
Also there was the “three times” factor, first the teacher, then mom, then dad.
I don’t care if a kid is ‘special needs’ any more. If they’re not learning anything, and causing trouble for teacher and the other students, they need to be kicked out. IF they attack a teacher, they need a bloody hole stomped in them.


21 posted on 01/14/2022 12:34:49 PM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Morgana

maybe the safety officer, but teachers? ummmm, no...


22 posted on 01/14/2022 1:20:33 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Morgana

This will get kids killed by police or security. I guarantee it.


23 posted on 01/14/2022 2:20:13 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Little Ray

No they paddled kids when I was in school in fact I was in school the year it became illegal which was high school. In grade school however, yes they did it and yes it was done.

When I was in junior high there was a special ed class out in a portable and that teacher had a paddle hanging over his black board. When the kids would act up he’d point to it. I never knew of him to actually use it, I think just pointing to it made the kids settle down.

As for not learning anything some of them can and do learn but how can the rest of them learn anything if every day there is one doing a floor show in the class room that cause a disruption?


24 posted on 01/14/2022 8:00:14 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: Little Ray
<>'...there are vicious little savages in the system'<>

Yes, there are. As any teacher, myself included, can attest.

Vouchers that follow the child will allow the Private Sector to solve the educational (mostly babysitting) problem.

Of course, lowering taxes to a level where only the Dad needs to work to support a family (fatherlessness a separate issue).

We have many broken children and CoVid has done us no favors in that arena.

25 posted on 01/15/2022 4:45:25 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Who is Ray Epps?)
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To: Morgana

There are regular school kids and there are mentally disturbed low in kids who up to the 80s or 90s were taken into state sponsored homes an now live either at home or in a foster home and who go to their local school district for mandated care daily care until age 22


26 posted on 01/15/2022 4:52:55 AM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup; Aevery_Freeman; Little Ray

I know when I as in school we did not have kids like this. We did not have kids who had to be drug kicking and screaming to the principal’s office. We did not have kids who would tear up a class room like a tornado when trough it. There was a special ed class room but that was for the kids who hyper active, slow learners, or other wise had troubles in learning but could learn.
Kids you are speaking of went to their own special school.

I was against mainstreaming when they spoke of it, I knew it would not bring those kids up but just bring the normal kids down. It would interfere with normal class time and the normal kids would pay for it. Teachers are hard pressed for time and these kids acting out only make things harder for them.

I also knew that if they were mainstreamed they would be bullied mercilessly and I was correct. At their own special school they are safe from bullies but at regular school where normal kids have to deal with bullies special needs kids don’t stand a chance. Complain to the school and file lawsuits after the fact all you want but in the end your child was still hurt for life by the system.


27 posted on 01/15/2022 1:42:04 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: Morgana

It is all law and will not be changed. Get every conservative kid out of all the government school systems. Every last one!.


28 posted on 01/15/2022 2:30:24 PM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Problem is, that the gub’ment will try to force school the private schools to take the monsters.


29 posted on 01/17/2022 2:07:38 PM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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