Posted on 01/09/2022 6:48:44 AM PST by week 71
Here is some number-crunching. Using natural immunity as a base and the fully vaccinated to mean two mRNA shots, we can conclude the following:
An unassailable stat from the Israelis, which made Fauci change his guidance from "if you are fully vaccinated, you will not catch it" to "if you are fully vaccinated, you can still catch it and spread it," was that the fully vaccinated in Israel were 6–13 times more likely to catch the D variant than the naturally immune population.
And the first decent-sized sample regarding omicron shows that the fully vaccinated are 2.61 times more likely to catch omicron than the D variant.
So 2.61 times 6 is 15.66.
And 2.61 times 13 is 33.93.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
“Yet there is no denying that the horrendous carnage seen in hospitals and nursing homes was largely stopped when a significant percentage of the adult population over 50 was vaccinated..”
Oh, yes there is denying. The weak ones all died off. Nobody left to die. Especially after NY (and other states) sent all of their sick to nursing homes to infect the other residents.
The question remains unanswered “are you damaging your immune system with the barrage of jabs?” We already know that many have immediate adverse effects from the vaccine we don’t know yet about the long-term impact yet. Considering the lies we have been told for the last two years any trust I had in what I am told by the experts is shot/all gone.
I’ll believe what I see with my own two eyes — and even then I’ll be suspicious.
Why take the chance when there are treatments that work.
“Meanwhile 3rd world countries using ivermectin and other unauthorized in the USA drugs are at least as well off as we are.”
NOT TURE. Many are much better off (Africa, Sweden, etc.).
Perhaps that is why my Jewish wife (who believes Jesus is the Messiah) gravitates towards it. Must be Campbells for my wife though - grin
36. Interesting comment - ‘thoughtless’. Do you care to discuss why it is ‘thoughtless’ to simply question taking an experimental drug, tested for a only a few months, we cannot know what is in it, can’t know about the testing for over 50 years and have no legal recourse if something is wrong?
I understand where you are coming from, but my teenage child got tested since she has a fever, feels like crap, but wants to go back to work as soon as possible without putting high risk people in danger.
Yuck.
Campbells is to real chicken soup what margarine is to butter or fake maple syrup is to he real stuff.
Nothing personal. If likes it more power to her, but give me my homemade, mom made soup.
I’m still trying to figure out why what I make does not come out like hers…..
Hostage wrote: “I will bet you have no direct statistics and any statistics you carry are something you believe are accurate because “you saw it on the internet.””
Most of the anti-vaxxer propaganda is something someone saw on the internet.
Incessant vaccination can’t be good, by that I mean multiple times in a year.
Your immune system is meant to keep you alive in the environment you’re exposed to.
If you overwhelm it with one thing regularly, the reaction to everything else can diminish because it basically “thinks” your environment is this stuff you keep injecting.
-- What specific threat do unvaccinated people pose to vaccinated people that vaccinated people don't pose to others as well?
-- And if there is such a "special threat" does it justify the high level of anger, distrust and fear of the unvaccinated by the vaccinated and by medical "experts".
Truly, I have not received a cogent answer to these questions and will appreciate your thoughtful response. Cheers!
I get that - and agree. My homemade chicken noodle soup is superb. But I can’t say ‘yuck’ to Campbell’s - probably due to childhood memories. Cheers FRiend!
Unvaccinated people pose comparatively little threat to vaccinated people. However if susceptible unvaccinated people ( people who are unvaccinated but previously infected with COVID or somehow have the right genes that confer non susceptibility to COVID are not susceptible.) do become infected and brew the virus within them, there is always the chance that the virus will mutate and a new variant will evolve and be transmitted. Perhaps not very likely but possible. Agree with most who note that it is bad policy to give this vaccine to children and especially bad to give it to not very vulnerable young males.
The level of anger, disgust and fear of the unvaccinated or “distinguishable others” is not a phenomena new to human behavior in the presence of crisis. Some are calling it “mass psychosis”. Yet it always occurs in almost all cultures during times like this. This pandemic cannot be eliminated with vaccines as was small pox, polio and perhaps a few other viruses. The unvaccinated have human rights that are difficult to protect especially when America and the West has such poor leadership and there is no common consensus of values.
Suspect this pandemic will end naturally like all previous pandemics when a highly contagious but not very virulent variant of COVID appears, goes through the population, confers immunity to the more virulent strains and the virulent strains then die out due to a lack of susceptible hosts. Nice hope, perhaps omicron is that variant but still have a long way to go and much to learn..
@ post 51 - I like your questions. Appears there is no satisfactory answer beside virtue signally responses like ‘to save grandma’ or ‘to save the children’ you must take part in a medical experiment.
“Yet there is no denying that the horrendous carnage seen in hospitals and nursing homes was largely stopped when a significant percentage of the adult population over 50 was vaccinated..”
There IS doubt. The supposed “horrendous carnage” from Covid has been completely corrupted by financial and political incentives throughout the health care community, which conflate deaths WITH Covid with deaths FROM Covid.
Hospitals literally get reimbursed tens of thousands of $$ per case for assigning Covid as the cause of death, and are even given legal assurances and encouragements that when in doubt they SHOULD err on the side of assigning Covid as the cause.
With these morbidity stats so deeply corrupted, there can be no meaningful data regarding the effects of vaccines on same.
How long does your Ivermectin last?
I disagree with this. Data shows the opposite
I would have to read the bottle, but if I remember correctly, I am to take 7 pills the first day, and then again on day three. If things don’t improve, do the same thing again on day 5 and 6.
I recall reading (thoroughly) your post back then and it explained my rather strange bout with CV.
There were two confirmed cases in the building where I worked, both on the floors above us.
We had been using the same elevators during their incubation period.
On Friday March 27 2020 we were told of the confirmed cases and that was the last day I worked in the office.
All through that week I had a very distinct case of diarrhea, not really clearing until the next week.
No other symptoms, just several trips to the bathroom instead of the usual one first thing in the morning.
I never attributed it to CV until reading your post as I had been vaping for about 3-4 years and was using a custom blend of 35/65 PG/VG.
After reading your post things made sense as I was disinfecting my RT every evening but that had little effect on my gut.
From then until now I have not restricted my activities and the instant the mask mandate was lifted here in Dallas I left it in the car when going to the store.
Never had a sniffle, fever, cough or any other symptom since those two weeks.
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carnage seen in hospitals and nursing homes was largely stopped when a significant percentage of the adult population over 50 was vaccinated
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The nursing home carnage stopped when they stopped putting infected people in them
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