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To: qaz123

Hit a man in the heart with a .22 and he’s still shooting, stabbing and fighting.

He might even live.

Stepping up to .380 (minimum) completely changes that calculus.


3 posted on 01/08/2022 8:17:47 AM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I have the Ruger LCP .380 with a 6+1 magazine. Love it due to its size, but wanted it for the deterrent value plus caliber size.


7 posted on 01/08/2022 8:21:27 AM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Mariner

Haha, I would tend to agree. A guy I used to be friends with always carried a .22 pistol and another of our friends actually witnessed him shoot some guy with it, someone who was hassling him in a parking lot one night - the victim was hit and cried out, then ran away screeching and yelling. He was bleeding but full of pep. My friend was rather relieved and took off quickly. You might think “Oh BS that guy probably went to the cops right away” - nah, it’s pretty clear he never did. He was trying to rob my friend, so he probably just slunk off to his lair. If the cops were ever notified we never heard anything about it. (It was right next to Colfax Avenue on a busy, busy night.)

On the other hand, I would not want to get shot with a .22.


8 posted on 01/08/2022 8:22:39 AM PST by Scarlett156 (Don't take it personally. I just get bored really easily. )
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To: Mariner

Your calculus doesn’t take into account what this article points out prominently, which is that if you miss, all that extra firepower did you no good. Hence, a caliber which increases your hit/miss ratio is a better caliber.


20 posted on 01/08/2022 8:29:49 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Mariner

Read up on the Miami Shootout with the FBI.

And if one was to upgrade from .22 it better be bigger than a. .380


24 posted on 01/08/2022 8:32:12 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Mariner

Baloney. A hit in the heart with a 22 and that’s it. Very fast. Bigger would be better, but it’ll be one out of a thousand that keeps fighting with a hole in their heart.

See also, 1970s and the sheer numbers of dead even with a puny 25.


99 posted on 01/08/2022 11:36:40 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Mariner

Put 10 rounds of same in chest and only a moose will keep charging. And, with so little recoil as the AHole gets closer the target area gets smaller.

These movie shots where a bad guy is tossed aside by a pistol shot like someone yanked off a horse by a lariat are crappola. Only one of any caliber right in the eye provides a dead stop — no pun intended. Immediate stop requires that you scramble the brains — something any caliber can do, even a little 22.


108 posted on 01/08/2022 11:44:20 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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