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BREAKING Sentencing in murder of Ahmaud Arbury

Posted on 01/07/2022 12:10:59 PM PST by Coronal

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To: plain talk

Gulag. Tell the truth. Political prisoners go to Gulags.


41 posted on 01/07/2022 12:46:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ctdonath2

An absolutely perfect synopsis. But I still have the nagging and maybe untrustworthy feeling that the not guilty Rittenhouse verdict had some effect on the pretty rigid sentencing in this case. I acknowledge I could be wrong.


42 posted on 01/07/2022 12:46:31 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Vermont Lt
These guys don’t have an IQ of 60 between them.

Because District Attorneys only hire morons as investigators.

43 posted on 01/07/2022 12:47:40 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: All

A lot of comments about how stupid these three were in the situation. Fair enough.

Not a lot of grasping that this sentence is intended to dissuade gun owners...even the non “stupid” ones, from arming in situations where the use of force may be necessary and legitimate.


44 posted on 01/07/2022 12:48:01 PM PST by Silver78
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To: TexasFreeper2009
yeah, sorry, this was cold blooded murder.

I would not have expected a Texan to think that shooting a man who punched you in the face and tried to take a gun away from you to be "cold blooded murder."

This is the sort of hyperbole that I would expect from Kamala Harris comparing protestors in the Capitol building to the Holocaust.

It is ridiculous.

45 posted on 01/07/2022 12:50:40 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: fwdude
If the roles were reversed

If my aunt had balls she would have been my uncle........

46 posted on 01/07/2022 12:50:43 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Silver78

The sentence is whatever you want it to be. A lot of folks are hung up on the “thug” racial aspect. Then you have 2A warriors seeing it as a gun issue.

Bottom line is the guys that brought the shotgun to the party handled the situation very poorly and are paying the price for that. I don’t think this case will really matter in the long term.


47 posted on 01/07/2022 12:57:18 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Coronal

Georgia is hard on murderers.


48 posted on 01/07/2022 12:58:33 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Still Thinking

The man outright murdered 20+ million people, yet he is not demonized nearly as much as Hitler, who killed 11 million civilians.


49 posted on 01/07/2022 12:58:51 PM PST by throwthebumsout
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To: Coronal

The guy who is videoing should appeal. Photography isn’t a crime.


50 posted on 01/07/2022 12:59:08 PM PST by conservative98
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Warning to Whites: Don’t kill murder Black thugs.

Fixed it.

51 posted on 01/07/2022 12:59:57 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: supremedoctrine

I’ll agree the sentence is overkill. Life (with or without parole) should be reserved for heinous deliberate capital crimes, not monumental screwups. McMichaels did not outright murder Arbury with forethought; he/they were trying to address a neighborhood problem and injected potential of lethal force where it shouldn’t have been. McMichaels’ act was not worse than John Hinkley (deliberate attempted assassination of a POTUS), who is out on parole. I’ll entertain your hypothesis.

I’m reminded of an old tale:

“What’s the Penalty for Being Late?”
“Death.”
“What’s the Penalty for Treason?”
“Death.”
“I Have News for You: We’re Late.”

Lesson: don’t make the penalty for smaller crimes the same as for great crimes - lest perpetrators decide to opt for the greater. If the penalty for f-ing up apprehension of a suspected chronic thief in the neighborhood is life in prison, those faced with a similar situation may just opt for what others admonish above: SSS.


52 posted on 01/07/2022 1:01:03 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: jarwulf
They would have gotten off or much less if this is was any other combination of races.

If Arbury was white they never would have followed him, stopped him, and killed him.

53 posted on 01/07/2022 1:02:02 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: escapefromboston
If only they killed a white guy, they’d probably just get probation.

If Arbury had been a white guy they wouldn't have followed him and killed him.

54 posted on 01/07/2022 1:03:18 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Coronal
Travis McMichael sentenced to life without parole plus 20 years for assault.

. . . Essentially for scaring a career criminal who was casing houses. That's insane. It's also bargaining. They know "life without parole" will be appealed and thrown out.

They didn't go for "murder" because the "victim" is the one who physically attacked the one with the gun--creeping up from behind (on the video)--which is how he wound up eating the product of the gun. By not getting a conviction on "murder," they're tacitly acknowledging Arbery brought his death on himself. In terms of any penalty, the shooting was deemed a wash.

Life without parole for asking a burglar with black privilege what he's doing in the area is insane.

55 posted on 01/07/2022 1:06:27 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: DiogenesLamp

You left out the bit about “...you chased the guy down, got in his face while armed, and it wasn’t your fight to initiate.”

Armed confrontation over trespass on not-yours property is problematic.
Even were it his, the right to armed confrontation over trespass ends when the trespasser leaves the property.

Yes, Arbury got what was coming to him - as a matter of karma, not of McMichaels acting on his rights.


56 posted on 01/07/2022 1:06:37 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Georgia is hard on murderers.

Harder on innocent people. The fake show trial rendered it's fake show trial verdict, and now three innocent men are to be sent off to the Gulag so that the powers that be can sacrifice their scapegoat.

57 posted on 01/07/2022 1:08:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: conservative98

Yeah thats insane, he was basically just following the other guys. His only crime was being associated with them.


58 posted on 01/07/2022 1:09:24 PM PST by jarwulf
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To: conservative98
The guy who is videoing should appeal. Photography isn’t a crime.

It is a measure of how utterly ridiculous is this case that this guy was even charged with anything, let alone convicted.

I think they will all attempt appeals, but nobody is likely to touch this political hand grenade. They are all afraid of what the media liars will do to them if they correct this miscarriage of justice.

59 posted on 01/07/2022 1:10:23 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg
Don't be around when a drugged up psychotic violent crook attempts to wrestle a gun away from you.

Active duty cop could have shot him dead in exactly the same manner and he would not have even been charged.

60 posted on 01/07/2022 1:13:13 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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