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indepth article on issues with recycling, refurbishing, and also touches on alternate batteries such as organic/degradeable batteries.
1 posted on 01/06/2022 12:31:32 AM PST by blueplum
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why do they keep saying EVs reduce carbon emissions when it is demonstrably false


2 posted on 01/06/2022 12:34:37 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: blueplum

Interesting, i had never heard of orb batteries.


3 posted on 01/06/2022 1:05:34 AM PST by algore
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To: blueplum

We have to destroy the Earth in order to save it!


7 posted on 01/06/2022 2:39:06 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: blueplum

“So even though EVs may help reduce carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions over their lifetime”

right, because the clean electricity used to recharge them comes from the wallplate in your garage, NOT from gigantic fossil-fuel fired generation plants ...


8 posted on 01/06/2022 4:34:13 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: blueplum

There’s no such thing as a free lunch.


11 posted on 01/06/2022 6:05:08 AM PST by Clarancebeaks
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To: blueplum

Lithium sells for ~$40/pound. Cobalt sells for ~$30/pound.

https://www.dailymetalprice.com/metalpricecharts.php?c=li&u=lb&d=0

Aluminum sells for about $1.30/pound and copper sells for about $4.40/pound - and they get recycled.


12 posted on 01/06/2022 6:17:28 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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So even though EVs may help reduce carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions over their lifetime...

Okay green weenies, please explain what the optimum level of atmospheric CO2 should be.

I'll wait.

Anybody?

CO2 is only 4/100ths of 1 % of our atmosphere (including everything humans have contributed). Can the green weenies explain how that amount of CO2 causes global warming, strike that, I mean climate change.

More crickets...

13 posted on 01/06/2022 6:45:04 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: blueplum

The BBC... They have been pushing this greenopoly scam. Now they are suddenly worried about what they have been pushing? BS. This is all planned and coordinated. Which politically connected billionaire will get the contract for the battery recycling mandate?


14 posted on 01/06/2022 7:04:12 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: blueplum; SunkenCiv; Kaslin; BenLurkin; Red Badger; Liz; LS

Rare that even the mainstream “news” (and the BBC is certainly “well inside” the usual and very left-wing US ABCNNBCBS Fake News academic-government-environmental industry!) that today’s media dares to address the environmental impact of “their” special-interest lithium hazards!

Perhaps China’s lithium battery industry wants to stop or hurt their Chilean competitors?


17 posted on 01/06/2022 8:04:33 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: blueplum

Two words...

Mariana Trench.


18 posted on 01/06/2022 8:22:43 AM PST by moovova
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To: linMcHlp

lithium batteries bkmk


19 posted on 01/06/2022 8:27:30 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: blueplum

Considering it’s the neo-Bolshies at the BBC posing the question, the one certainty is that they wouldn’t be asking if there weren’t a Socialist answer already in the waiting.


20 posted on 01/06/2022 9:56:18 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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Texas will never run out of lithium. There’s over 100,000 active wells in the Midland basin each and every one produces on average of 6 bbl of salt water for every one bbl of oil. I personally have drilled over 500 swd wells as a ops geologist in a 20+ year career the amounts of salt water are mind boggling some wells take 50,000 bank A DAY down bore.

“Just a single week’s worth of water from hydraulic fracturing in Texas’ Eagle Ford Shale has the potential to produce enough lithium for 300 electric vehicle batteries or 1.7 million smartphones, the researchers said. This example shows the scale of opportunities for this new technique to vastly increase lithium supply and lower costs for devices that rely on it.”

https://news.utexas.edu/2021/09/08/new-way-to-pull-lithium-from-water-could-increase-supply-efficiency/

It’s not just EVs. Every smart phone, laptop, tablet,electric razor or Clippers, electric drills and power tools, they all use Li based batteries why because currently Li based batteries have the highest kwh/kg and the most charge cycles before end of life at the best prices. Modern society runs on lithium batteries your smart phone would not exist without them no other batteries have the energy density to do it and be rechargeable. Same.for modern tablets and laptops the old suit case sized laptops was due to nickel metal hydride batteries and Nicads before that even larger. Lithium is the corner stone of modern portable tech period full stop.


22 posted on 01/07/2022 9:08:13 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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