No evidence suggests a causal link between Ivermectin recommendation and the decline of COVID-19 cases in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh

Health Feedback ^ | 10/12/2021 | Editor: Iria Carballo-Carbajal

[setter]

Anti vaxxer podcaster Doug Kuzma, radio host Phil Valentine and many others had stashes of Ivermectin.

They are now all room temp or as in Dougs case soon to be.

[allblues]

Shouldn’t you be standing in line for your 17th booster shot? And be sure not to leave the house without your slave muzzle.

[epluribus_2]

One of the biggest Lies of the Biden(Obama, Xi, Soros) Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment headed by Dr. Fow-Chee.

[jcon40]

Good post. Always helpful to know how and what the enemy is thinking and I appreciate your posts from sources I wouldn’t normally Find.

How I read this one is the MSM is now scrambling here to tamp down the story on the success of Ivermectin +++ in Uttar Pradesh.

The lefts Covid narratives are falling apart and this is just another attempt at damage control by them. Yeah, Uttar Pradesh didn’t monitor their tests to the standards the author will accept. Boo hoo

None the less, This extremely poor Indian state has outdone what the Purveyors of fear have been Unable to accomplish in their own back yards.

[econjack]

How does he even keep his job after lying to Congress? Also, has he ever explain his patent on COVID in 2006 or why he sold it to China if it wasn’t for gain of function?

[Gaffer]

You forgot the big one - crematories....that’s probably all you vaxxers out there are interested in for the ‘unwilling’ naysayers anyway.........

[Bob434]

On August 25, 2021, the Indian media noticed the discrepancy between Uttar Pradesh’s massive success and other states, like Kerala’s, comparative failure. Although Uttar Pradesh was only 5% vaccinated to Kerala’s 20%, Uttar Pradesh had (only) 22 new COVID cases, while Kerala was overwhelmed with 31,445 in one day. So it became apparent that whatever was contained in those treatment kits must have been pretty effective.

News18 reported, “Let’s look at the contrasting picture. Kerala, with its 3.5 crore population - or 35 million, on August 25 reported 31,445 new cases, a bulk of the total cases reported in the country. Uttar Pradesh, the biggest state with a population of nearly 24 crore - or 240 million - meanwhile reported just 22 cases in the same period....

This peer-reviewed paper is one of the most cited of medical references of all time – period. That should alert any reader – immediately - to its historical significance. Dr. Tess Lawrie is a 30-year veteran WHO evidence synthesis expert. Her conclusion is every bit as meaningful as the article’s rank. Here are those words,

“Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using Ivermectin. Using Ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that Ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout-—part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html

India was in an “Ivermectin blackout”, then the news finally broke that ivermectin was used in kits In Pradesh, and news media immediately started attacking the breaking news, and then something happened znd india is again in an “Ivermectin blackout”, and now claim that ivermectin had nothing to do with the dramatic impressive reduction In cases, claiming without any vidence, that “something else must be responsible for the dramatic decrease”. Wow!

The lies just never cease from the left, even when evidence shows such dramatic drops like mentioned above after ivermectin was given there

[delta7]

Why hasn’t the US medical industry tested Ivermectin?
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Ivermectin works. My Summit Care corrupted doctors said it was prohibited by their group to prescribe. So I took the Horse paste when my son caught it in August, he was slightly sick for thee days…by the time I caught it, I had taken one dose, and when my fever hit 103 I took a double dose- by that night my fever dropped to 100 and stayed there till I fully recovered 4-5 days later. UHC Piedmont doctors in my area( yes I will name them) have been corrupted and are guilty of murder at most, sins of omission at the least.

[CatHerd]

Actually, the distribution of ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh may have mitigated severity of Covid cases, considering the following:

Ivermectin may help covid-19 patients—but only those with worms [—Really ?!?!] https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4017143/posts

High prevalence of soil-transmitted helminth infections among primary school children, Uttar Pradesh, India, 2015 https://idpjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40249-017-0354-7

So, yes, ivermectin may well have been beneficial for Covid patients in Uttar Pradesh because ... worms!

Were I in charge of public health in Uttar Pradesh I might well consider handing out a dose every 6 months to keep the worms at bay as part of my anti-Covid strategy.

[Bob434]

Yep, ivermectin doesn’t work on every single person, and. Either do vaccines and all the medicines that hospitals throw at a covid sick person. People are dying with the vaccines and mu,tiple medsmtoo, so what is your point again?

“Many others” huh? Got a Number? Because we can point to 1000’s and 1000’s who have died after being vaxxed, double handed and boosted. Heck they even post numbers zll over the net for daily deaths of “fully vaxxed”

[BuddhaBrown]

Seeking and Finding a causal link is always as valid endeavor.

That concept, however, does not invalidate the circumstantial evidence at hand - which does strongly indicate some conclusions not stated above. Including the most important one:

An America-sized population does NOT need the Trump SwampJab to beat CV.

[CatHerd]

There have been a few studies, but the ones completed so far have shown conflicting results.

See here:

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/ivermectin-data/

All the studies were small and had significant flaws. It appears ivermectin may have a small effect, and this is why these early, small, flawed studies conflict. Detecting and measuring a small effect requires a large study.

There are a number of larger, well-designed studies being conducted in several countries now (two in Japan alone). It will be interesting to see what they show when complete.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Anti vaxxer podcaster Doug Kuzma, radio host Phil Valentine and many others had stashes of Ivermectin.

With every anecdote you have like the one above, I can point you to this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/patient-given-ivermectin-for-covid-released-from-edward-hospital/ar-AARjeL0

The daughter of a Hong Kong man who was treated in the ICU for coronavirus at Edward Hospital asserts that his recovery is due to a DuPage County judge ordering the hospital to permit him to receive ivermectin treatments.

Sun Ng, 71, was released from the hospital Nov. 27, according to a news release from Mauck & Baker, LLC, the law firm that represented the family’s case. Ng was hospitalized with coronavirus on Oct. 14 and placed on a ventilator four days later.

Ng’s daughter, Dr. Man Kwan Ng, sued Edward-Elmhurst Health after the hospital denied her request to allow her father to receive ivermectin, according to a previous news release from Dr. Ng’s lawyers.

In early November, Judge Paul Fullerton ordered the hospital to allow Dr. Alan Bain, who is not vaccinated against coronavirus, to come to the hospital to provide ivermectin treatments.

Which brings me back to what I would do if I were in charge:

ANYONE WHO DOES NOT WANT IVERMECTIN NEED NOT TAKE IT. ANYONE WHO WANTS IVERMECTIN FOR COVID SHOULD BE GIVEN THE FREEDOM TO TAKE IT.

[econjack]

No, it’s not the doctors’ fault directly. They were threatened by the AMA with losing their license if they used it. Blame the CDC and AMA for banning Ivermectin.

[econjack]

There have been many large studies in other countries, including Japan, Australia, and India. For some reason, the CDC and AMA choose to ignore them.

[volunbeer]

India has a very lucrative relationship with pharmaceutical companies and many manufacture drugs there. People forget this.

Many regions in India did the right thing but they chose not to publicize it because they did not want to lose the jobs with big pharma. The people in India are not stupid and in the absence of government official decrees they did the same thing many here in the US and elsewhere did and repurposed the drug on their own after hearing about it.

FWIW - Based on over 50 studies and papers it appears that IVM has around a 65-75% effectiveness against Covid and (my take) that number is higher when administered early and lower if given to the severely ill (already had the cytokine storm).

As others have said it is not foolproof or a miracle for everyone but given the well established safety record and lack of contraindications it is criminal that it was not used.

The real kicker and most overwhelming evidence is vitamin D deficiency in those with a negative outcome with Covid.

This factoid is the one that people will possibly be the most angry about. In the world of health statistics and efficacy studies this one will end up being the closest to 100% for Covid.

For those interested I have been reading studies here and there on quercetin and its properties as a zinc ionophore. In that role it appears to be just as powerful as HCQ when combined with zinc and it is a natural compound (a flavenoid) associated with fruits/vegetables.

The role of zinc in viral suppression appears to be very strong and I highly recommend this supplement as it is quite safe as is zinc in recommended intake. It also acts as an anti-inflammatory and antioxidant.

I have never been a big supplement person despite my background in biology and physiology. Quercetin, Zinc, and Vitamins D and C are something I will take the rest of my life after all the Covid reading!

Another great supplement to consider if you feel that you are sick and might have covid or any virus is NAC - N-Acytyl Cysteine. I have not finished reviewing all the papers on this but it clearly has a good efficacy and a good safety profile.

[DugwayDuke]

Gaffer wrote: “You forgot the big one - crematories....that’s probably all you vaxxers out there are interested in for the ‘unwilling’ naysayers anyway.........”

You couldn’t be more wrong. I want people to live long and healthy which is why I promote the vaccines and disparage the false anti-vaxxer narrative.

[Bob434]

[[but given the well established safety record and lack of contraindications it is criminal that it was not used]]

Exactly. There is no reason I know of that it couldn’t be used in addition to, meds they are using for covid in hospitals- there is no downside to combining it, znd only a massive upside to,doing so. Pascal’s wager almost.

Folks do have to be a bit cautious of “all natural” products though. A .ot,of,the ones that fight covid, also are not good onmthe liver,or kidneys for those with serious problems, although the short time it is taken might not do,anything serious, but I don’t know for,sure. Some carry warnings for folks with liver or organ or internal bleeding issues, but “probably” are fine short term and in the smal. Amounts used.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

I agree: people should have access to information that will assist them in making up their own minds.

For consideration:

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https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.pdf

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines was published online June 17, 2021, by the American Journal of Therapeutics. It concludes, “Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

August 26, 2021 | Cureus

“Ivermectin as a SARS-CoV-2 Pre-Exposure Preventive in Healthcare Workers: a Propensity Score-Matched Retrospective Cohort Study”

a study from doctors who continued to use ivermectin to subdue COVID-19 with great success in the Dominican Republic. IVM as a Covid Pre-Exposure Preventive.

June 15, 2021 | J Antibiot (Tokyo)

“The mechanisms of action” of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article.” reports overwhelmingly positive data for ivermectin’s use in the pandemic.

“100% of 36 early treatment and prophylaxis studies report positive effects… using the most serious outcome reported 79% and 85% improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis respectively…Statistically significant improvements were seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance…100% of the 17 Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) for early treatment and prophylaxis report positive effects, with an estimated improvement of 73% and 83% respectively, and 93% of all 28 RCTs.)… The consistency of positive results across a wide variety of cases has been remarkable. It is extremely unlikely that the observed results could have occurred by chance.”

Source: Database of all ivermectin COVID-19 studies – www.c19ivermectin.com – (constantly updated)

(I have not viewed the items in the database.)

[CatHerd]

There have been studies in various countries. They were all had significant flaws. Some showed some positive effect, some showed no effect. One showed slight negative effect.

When did Japan complete this large study? Do you have a link to share with us? I would love to see it, honestly, and very interested. Maybe it was completed and results published since November?

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“Clinical trial of Ivermectin is reportedly on-going. However Ivermectin is not approved for use to treat disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 infection (COVID-19),” a PMDA spokesperson told AFP in an email on November 9, 2021.

Japanese Health Minister Norihisa Tamura told a committee of the country’s lower house of parliament in August 2021 that more evidence needed to show the drug was effective in order for it to be prescribed for Covid-19.

Link: https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9R94PR-1

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The official guidance for doctors from the Japanese Ministry of Health states that “compared to standard treatment and placebo, ivermectin did not reduce deaths, shorten the hospitalization period and improve time of virus disappearance.”

Japan’s Health Minister Norihisa Tamura said that it is necessary to wait for the proof of the effectiveness of the drug before making any change to the guidance.

Link: https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9M48JR-1