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We need scientific analysis of satellite data on UAP
thehill.com ^ | Avi Loeb, former chair, Harvard Astronomy Dept

Posted on 12/29/2021 3:11:38 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Earlier this year, the U.S. military and intelligence community issued a report on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP, also called UFOs). Before the report’s release, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe stated, “we are talking about objects that have been seen by navy or air force pilots, or have been picked up by satellite imagery, that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain, movements that are hard to replicate, that we don’t have the technology for.”

The attention-grabbing part of this statement is the reference to "satellite imagery." I — and the hundreds of scientists engaged in studying UAP — have never seen any publicly released data on this. We would be extremely interested in analyzing any data on objects that enter the Earth's atmosphere and do not follow ballistic orbits like meteors. But no such data is currently available to open scientific analysis.

Of course, Ratcliffe’s quote is an insufficient basis for substantive scientific inquiry. But unclassified data, assembled by non-governmental satellites, could be made available to open scientific analysis.

Progress in our understanding of the related satellite imagery data may also stem from the new office established recently by the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for fiscal year 2022. The office, to be created by mid-2022, will have the authority to start a coordinated effort of reporting and responding to UAPs and significantly improve data-sharing between agencies on UAP sightings. This new office will be administered jointly between the Secretary of Defense and the Director of National Intelligence, and it will empower military and civilian personnel as well as the intelligence community to report incidents and information involving UAP.

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1 posted on 12/29/2021 3:11:38 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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“as well as the intelligence community to report incidents and information involving UAP.”

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Well there goes the neighborhood.


2 posted on 12/29/2021 3:18:56 AM PST by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Somebody knows sumthin but they ain’t talkin.....


3 posted on 12/29/2021 3:28:05 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My favorite word is Tweezer)
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To: Hot Tabasco

IIRC, the NRO is in control of the satellites and the intel gathered by them.


4 posted on 12/29/2021 3:35:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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" ... (UAPs/UFOs are) objects that have been seen by navy or air force pilots, or have been picked up by satellite imagery, that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain, movements that are hard to replicate, that we don’t have the technology for."

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If the new office will determine that the objects in the satellite imagery data are so unusual that they cannot be human-made and hence are not a matter of national security, then it would make sense to subject the data to scientific analysis. A natural or an extraterrestrial origin, will be of international interest and benefit humanity as a whole and enrich our shared scientific knowledge.

Protocols for a possible contact with extraterrestrial intelligence were mostly inspired in the past by the possibility of detecting radio signals from planets around distant stars. Given that the nearest star system, Alpha Centauri, is 4.4 light-years away, such signals would require a decade or more for a round-trip conversation. As a result, they do not bear consequences to our immediate future.

But a different type of contact could deliver prompt implications. It concerns physical objects from another civilization that are already here, waiting to be noticed like a package in our mailbox. The arriving hardware need not be brainless but could possess artificial intelligence (AI), seeking information about the habitable planets around the sun.

An encounter of this type implies instant contact without a significant delay in communication time. The potential for an immediate engagement changes the response protocol relative a delayed radio signal.

Currently, there is no international agreement on how humanity should engage with a visiting object of extraterrestrial origin. It would be prudent to formulate guidelines before they are needed. Any engagement could have implications for the future of humanity and should not be left to the spontaneous whims of a small team of researchers.

We should weigh the risks and benefits that will result from different engagements. The decision tree on how to proceed will have branches that depend on the objects’ properties and behavior. Since it is difficult to forecast these unknowns in advance, decisions will have to be reached in real-time.

Deciphering the intent of an intelligent extraterrestrial equipment may resemble the challenge of breaking the code of an encryption device. We might need to rely on our AI systems in figuring out the intent of extraterrestrial AI systems.

A proper interpretation of prompt contact with extraterrestrial technologies could bring about the most significant advance in understanding of the reality around us in the entire history of humans.

Our historic migration out of Africa started about a hundred thousand years ago, but a future migration out of Earth may be triggered by a dialogue with a messenger from afar that does not resemble anything we had seen before.

Avi Loeb is the head of the Galileo Project, founding director of Harvard University's Black Hole Initiative, director of the Institute for Theory and Computation at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, as well as the former chair of the astronomy department at Harvard University (2011-2020). He chairs the advisory board for the Breakthrough Starshot project and is a former member of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology and a former chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy of the National Academies. He is the bestselling author of “Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth” and a co-author of the textbook “Life in the Cosmos”, both published in 2021.

Again, it is merely an assumption that these objects are from some other solar system. Which theory makes little sense. even if they have faster that light travel or even instantaneous travel.

Given out faint knowledge of pre-history (prior to 6,000 BC) and the many megalithic structures that the local people claim they did not and could not build, there is a better case that these objects are from prior high tech civilizations that fled Earth to avoid impending catastrophe they could not avoid, like the climate and fauna changing one around 10,600 BC.

Prior high tech civilizations over the course of billions of years would account for the odd objects found at great depth in mines, fossilized footprints, and so forth ; would explain why they have been seen for hundreds of years - keeping tabs on the Earth's state of recovery and on us, their descendants ; would explain all the 'sky gods' who came down and taught primitive peoples about how to be civilized etc.

When we reach a certain point (which seems fast approaching in this coming century) they will return to their former home, in good condition whose people understand the modicum needed to form a successful civilization, as our partners.

5 posted on 12/29/2021 4:05:37 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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These articles are so ‘cat and mouse.’ They (world governments) have been in contact with aliens for decades. Now that they can’t hide it anymore because of the current alien-driven AI active experiment (transhumanization) taking place on homo sapiens, they are forced to start dribbling out the dirty little secret to the masses. Why did they just launch through a government grant a study where clergy and thologians are tasked with assessing how humanity would react to the news that aliens exist?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/priests-are-helping-nasa-figure-out-how-wed-cope-with-aliens


6 posted on 12/29/2021 4:06:16 AM PST by iontheball
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Yeah, the whole thing does smack of a “slow reveal”.


7 posted on 12/29/2021 4:10:39 AM PST by rbg81
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To: PIF

Personally, it is hard to conceive of a high tech civilization lasting a million years, let along hundreds of millions. We would be less of a threat to them than Neanderthals would be to modern man.


8 posted on 12/29/2021 4:17:01 AM PST by rbg81
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To: PIF

“Given out faint knowledge of pre-history (prior to 6,000 BC) and the many megalithic structures that the local people claim they did not and could not build, there is a better case that these objects are from prior high tech civilizations that fled Earth to avoid impending catastrophe they could not avoid, like the climate and fauna changing one around 10,600 BC.

Prior high tech civilizations over the course of billions of years would account for the odd objects found at great depth in mines, fossilized footprints, and so forth ; would explain why they have been seen for hundreds of years - keeping tabs on the Earth’s state of recovery and on us, their descendants ; would explain all the ‘sky gods’ who came down and taught primitive peoples about how to be civilized etc.

When we reach a certain point (which seems fast approaching in this coming century) they will return to their former home, in good condition whose people understand the modicum needed to form a successful civilization, as our partners.”

I know we have talked about this before, but I have now come to the same conclusion. Every oral tradition from before written word says this very same thing. And the first written words follow suit. The same story from all cultures all around the world what had no clue each other even existed. It is not just a coincidence.


9 posted on 12/29/2021 4:17:26 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: iontheball

Yup. Just imagine the reaction if Aliens snicker when we tell them about G-d?


10 posted on 12/29/2021 4:20:47 AM PST by rbg81
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Some folks who claim to be abductees with favorable views of these “aliens” claim they (said “aliens”) are the ones interested in our development and enlightenment...as opposed to the One who has sought our restraint by discouraging what some call “sin.”


11 posted on 12/29/2021 4:36:14 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Interesting....it sounds like you are implying the Aliens are agents of the devil. But maybe I am misinterpreting?


12 posted on 12/29/2021 4:43:57 AM PST by rbg81
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Remarkably interesting, this and the fact NASA is hiring Religious Leaders to study people’s reaction to news of Alien Life.

““For just as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. And they did not understand until the flood came and swept them all away. So shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man. Then two men will be in the field, one taken and one left.” Matthew 24:37-40.

Were Aliens on the earth before the great Flood?

“There were giants on the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men who were of old, men of renown.” Genesis 6:4

Are they returning for the end days?


13 posted on 12/29/2021 4:54:52 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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I'm not implying anything. That's just what some abductees (they call themselves "experiencers") have been saying recently.

I have no idea if it's all BS or not... that's what is bubbling to the surface.

14 posted on 12/29/2021 5:03:05 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: rbg81

BTW, there’s a link to a video in which a purported former CIA officer and abductee makes this statement. I can probably dig up the link if you (or anyone else here) are interested.


15 posted on 12/29/2021 5:11:26 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: rbg81

You are not misinterpreting what it sounds like (though I am not implying it)?;-)


16 posted on 12/29/2021 5:12:28 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Sure.


17 posted on 12/29/2021 5:17:34 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81
Not meaning to appear cryptic...just taking pains to make clear that I am not pushing a point of view with regard to this stuff.
18 posted on 12/29/2021 5:23:41 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Hmmm

In 1998 while in at Arlington attending a family member’s funeral, a 3-star had mentioned he’d “done things more significant than Niel Armstrong landing on the moon... but the world was not ready for that knowledge for at least 15-20 yrs.”

This family member had also been commander of area 52 for a few years, F117 combat pilot (among others), as well as assist to the joint chief of the USAF.

definitely a slow reveal


19 posted on 12/29/2021 5:35:11 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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that's what is bubbling to the surface.

What is bubbling to the surface is a whole bunch of bullshit designed to take some minds off of the true threat to our country.

20 posted on 12/29/2021 5:49:40 AM PST by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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