Posted on 12/26/2021 8:19:02 AM PST by Pajamajan
President Trump on with Dan Ball of OAN now.
There are some things wrong with that, to some of us. For example, the precedents that are being set, such as:
- Suppression of discussion and application of natural treatments, or existing and safe medicines originally developed for other illnesses
- Medications being pushed to market before traditional trials (we are seeing that now with these new pills too)
- Manufacturers being given 100% immunity to adverse reactions
- Inference that infinite booster injections are superior to natural immunity function
- The changing of official definitions, such as to the word vaccine
You may not agree, but moving the discussion forward to only being about mandates or not, ignores these other, more foundational concerns.
It is hard to say what the impression will be when the transcript is released; to me it felt like he was doing a better job than sometimes. Then he went a little off the rails, but overall he is obviously more aware than what Candice Owens concluded after her recent interview with him. To me he seems to be trying to keep everyone happy by walking a political tight rope.
It is amazing that he is so much more capable of talking off the top of his head than so many others. I always enjoy Dan Ball and he is doing a great job as usual.
He hasn’t discussed his own decision, he just said it should be a voluntary decision - based on your risk factors, etc. Did not mention religious exemptions or other specifics. He said Pfizer was very cooperative in his executive efforts to speed a vax for Covid. (Well DUH)
They moved on to other topics - but Dan Ball did ask repeated questions about mandates.
Thanks....I’m familiar with his position on mandates....I am honesty curious why he even took the $hot, and then the boo$ter, after having natural immunity, beforehand.
Just wondering if anyone has ever asked him about that.
“political tightrope”
Yes.
He should have natural immunity. He didn’t even need to get the first jab.
He’s become a vax salesman for no good reason.
I am not a doctor and I'm not sure about the details, but that's what I heard.
I don’t know where to get the audio and where it was from (FOX maybe) I thought he said if you have had COVID you don’t need the Vax.
Good point. I thought I heard it on Rogan. The doctor McCollough or however it’s spelled.
Why should anyone be surprised he got the booster, you ask? Because this is what he was saying just a few months ago:
Trump dismisses COVID-19 booster shots as a ‘money-making operation’ for Pfizer
Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday suggested that vaccine booster shots aren’t medically necessary and instead are being pushed by pharmaceutical companies purely for profit.
Been wondering about that but haven't been able to find any info. Makes sense because the infusion works similarly to the jabs. Fights off one little part of the virus. My wife tested positive at the nursing home she works at and a follow-up test two days later was also positive. That second test was done on our way to get her the Monoclonal Antibody Infusion. Had to do it though because she has bronchitis and can barely breathe when she gets a cold or flu. Full blown covid would have put her in the hospital and when you go to the hospital with covid, well, I don't know what the numbers are on who makes it out alive but... Got all the stuff here for the Zelenko/FLCCC protocol but I wasn't going to play doctor with her and her bronchitis. I don't qualify for the infusion so I'm taking the full protocol and she's taking the vitamins part of it.
It’s like he’s become the #1 vax salesman. It’s like saying how awesome Trump Tower is as it’s falling down.
It must be political. Maybe hoping to get the suburban women vote? He might get a few but how many deplorables will he lose?
All he has to do is keep quiet about it. The whole “I came up with three vaccines” thing is real bad. Like he was in a lab with a white coat on.
He should read more. RFK Jr’s book and Dr Peter Breggin’s book. Both show that “operation warp speed” was in the works a decade ago, minus the name. Trump thinks he did operation warp speed. Really kind of sad.
I went through Don Jr’s and Stephen Miller’s twitter feeds and don’t see where they’ve said one bad thing about the jabs. Same with all but 2-3 members of congress.
I feel like I’m watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
“Trump is pro vax but not pro mandate. NOTHING wrong with that position.”
Exactly. If I believe that smoking is unhealthy that doesn’t mean I support banning cigarettes. In a free society the government doesn’t make health decisions for you, even when they are wise.
“Trump is pro vax but not pro mandate. NOTHING wrong with that position.”
Well, actually there is.
He does not state it as- “I’m pro-vaccine; but I understand you may disagree- for good reasons. Yes, there are concerns about side effects, but I think it is wise to use”.
He doesn’t promote treatment! He acts like there is nothing but “vaccine”.
That’s the problem.
Trump walks on water for me, and I agree with most of his positions, including his pro vaccine position for those who have high probability of dying from covid, but respect for those feeling that they’re safest without the vaccine. And no mandates because of the rights of the individual to make choices for themselves. Trump’s vaccine position only reinforces how much I trust and respect his judgment.
“vaccine
any preparation of immunogenic material suitable for the stimulation of active immunity in animals without inducing disease....”
“Oxford Dictionary of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology”
“Print Publication Date: 2006”
Taking the vaccines carries the risk of severe side effects, including death, especially as they haven’t been fully tested. But the virus itself carries the risk of severe side effects, including death. So I believe that people who are at high risk from the virus (old with co-morbidities) are justified in getting vaccinated. And thank you President Trump for your role in encouraging development of the vaccines. But I also believe that people who, if they catch the virus, are at high risk of passing it on to either people who are at high risk from the virus, or to a large number of people at low risk from the virus, should seriously consider getting vaccinated.
I agree that Trump should also advocate alternative treatments such as Ivermectin. And he should talk about natural immunity and herd immunity. And he should demand that the manufacturers and government share liability for the adverse effects of the vaccines.
oGet over yourself. Trump is pro vax but not pro mandate. NOTHING wrong with that position
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Trump is against illegal immigration. How passionate is he about that issue? Does he just come out and say I’m anti-illegal-immigration? No, he could go on for hours about it. At rallies he brings people up who lost loved ones become of because of illegal immigration.
Do you, or anyone else, see any of that when it comes to mandates? And this is a matter of taking our freedom away. Our liberties away. Our constitution away.
At his next rally will Trump bring someone up who got fired because they wouldn’t get vaccinated? Think he’ll bring a Navy SEAL up who had a maybe moved out of his house because he couldn’t pay his mortgage because he got kicked out of the military? Think he’ll bring a cop up who lost their job because they weren’t vaccinated? Think he’ll bring a doctor up on Nurse up anybody up? Think he’ll bring a family member up who had a loved one died because of the vaccine?
This is the issue of our generation and if he won’t step up to the plate I really hope somebody else does. And I don’t care if it’s somebody like Trump entering politics of the first time. This issue needs to come to the forefront because there’s something very bizarre going on. And the longer Trump goes without talking about it the more I think he’s part of it.
Him, Jared, and Ivanka.
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