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To: DiogenesLamp; ransomnote; x; SoCal Pubbie; jeffersondem
DiogenesLamp: " it has been this way since around the 1820s in Washington DC.
And though it existed before Abraham Lincoln got there, Abraham Lincoln ramped up the corruption into overdrive."

It's important to remember that one reason Republicans got elected in 1860 was "Democratics" notorious corruption, as the Republican 1860 platform put it:

So the election of 1860 was not only about slavery, but also about "Democratics" "measureless subserviency" to globalized big business interests -- i.e., cotton, tobacco, sugar, etc. During the 1850s Democratic administrations reduced tariffs to their lowest rates since the War of 1812 and doubled the national debt.
Republicans promised to correct that, and voters liked what they heard.

Now, claims that historically Republicans were, on the whole, either more or less corrupt than Democrats are simply not supported by any metric I know of, except one: the Democrat news media typically complains loudly about alleged Republican corruption, while remaining silent about often much worse Democratic corruption.

And since DiogenesLamp is, at heart, a true Democrat he believes all the bad said about Republicans, while discounting anything bad reported on his own "Democratics."

10 posted on 12/22/2021 2:26:46 PM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
Liberals always say they are for the greater good and the common folk, but they lie. As soon as Lincoln's team got into power, they started exploiting the system to enrich themselves.

Dupont made all their gunpowder by the way. I just learned that the other day.

11 posted on 12/22/2021 3:06:01 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp

Diogenes seems like he’s read too much Gore Vidal, but Vidal was cynical about American politics all the way back to the beginning and cynical about everything else too, not just Lincoln.


12 posted on 12/22/2021 3:38:28 PM PST by x
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To: BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp; ransomnote; x; SoCal Pubbie

“Republicans promised to correct that, and voters liked what they heard.”

Well, 39 percent anyway.


16 posted on 12/22/2021 9:04:35 PM PST by jeffersondem
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