Posted on 12/20/2021 10:37:44 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
She was not balanced which meant at some point something had to give.
In her case it did not drive her from God but I know of some people that it has.
Eventually they learned that this drive to be absolute shining perfection in word and deed was not possible and the end result was that they decided if they could not be perfect they would give up entirely.
Some find their way back to God. Some still have not. Because now that you have messed up it is no use anymore.
Oh yes! That I agree with. I just meant that in her case, the fear of not being perfect overwhelmed her until she sought help and came to rest in God’s LOVE (“perfect love casteth out fear) — and to be at peace in the mystery and uncertainty that walking by faith sometimes entails. Which can be uncomfortable, especially for minds seeking concrete certainty/assurance all the time.
Bless your heart. You may now change your pink shirt to the blue one
Meaning that your ignorant insolent baseless accusations and calumnies having been exposed for what they are, then in lieu of any possible defense, your recourse is a pitiful ad hominem attempt, or what the RM refers to as a "spitwad." Whose advice is appropriate in this thread as well:
If the other guy is throwing spitwads at you on an “open” thread it probably means he has run out of ammunition. Take it as a backhanded compliment. You won, walk away.
Breathe buddy. I even alluded to the article’s portion that led to my comment
I’ve thrown nothing
If you are that angry at me then I ask only that you pray for me
Breathe buddy. I even alluded to the article’s portion that led to my commentYou mean your last post regarding pink shirt to the blue one, which again fails to substantiate your charges(not that you ever tried until this fallacious attempt) that "She was not strongly committed to hear [her] faith. She was living in delusion" "She kept asking for signs to prove that God is real. That is delusional." For as said, rather than not being strongly committed to her faith, she earnestly sought to serve God in line with Scripture (graduating with a double major in education and Biblical studies, marrying her college love and following him to his international job call, teaching Bible classes at an Evangelical grade school, learning to speak Arabic, and being heavily involved in refugee relief projects, plus getting a master’s degree). But consistent with that unselfish commitment, she not only found it hard to say no, but wanted to be sure she was obeying God's specific will in areas such as what to wear. And due to a very sensitive and overly zealous conscience and immaturity, then this went to extremes. Which neither meant she was asking if God was real or not, nor does a compulsion to serve God and sometimes mistaking conscience for the voice of God warrant dismissing her as someone "living in delusion." This is not some mindless chanting devoteee but a holy very committed servant of Christ who was mistaken to a good degree as regards scrupulosity in her commitment and needed wise counselling and better discernment. Would that such was the real problem today rather than the multitudes, the majority of Christians in the West, who think living "as ease in Zion" and not seeking to worship and serve the Lord, and share those gospel with those whose path they pass, and otherwise make a positive difference in the lives of others for time and for eternity constitutes Christian faith. I came short in all this somewhat.
Breathe buddy. I even alluded to the article’s portion that led to my comment
You mean your last post regarding pink shirt to the blue one, which again fails to substantiate your charges(not that you ever tried until this fallacious attempt) that "She was not strongly committed to hear [her] faith. She was living in delusion" "She kept asking for signs to prove that God is real. That is delusional."
For as said, rather than not being strongly committed to her faith, she earnestly sought to serve God in line with Scripture (graduating with a double major in education and Biblical studies, marrying her college love and following him to his international job call, teaching Bible classes at an Evangelical grade school, learning to speak Arabic, and being heavily involved in refugee relief projects, plus getting a master’s degree).
But consistent with that unselfish commitment, she not only found it hard to say no, but wanted to be sure she was obeying God's specific will in areas such as what to wear. And due to a very sensitive and overly zealous conscience and immaturity, then this went to extremes.
Which neither meant she was asking if God was real or not, nor does a compulsion to serve God and sometimes mistaking conscience for the voice of God warrant dismissing her as someone "living in delusion."
This is not some mindless chanting devoteee but a holy very committed servant of Christ who was mistaken to a good degree as regards scrupulosity in her commitment and needed wise counselling and better discernment.
Would that such was the real problem today rather than the multitudes, the majority of Christians in the West, who think living "as ease in Zion" and not seeking to worship and serve the Lord, and share those gospel with those whose path they pass, and otherwise make a positive difference in the lives of others for time and for eternity constitutes Christian faith. I came short in all this somewhat.
In closing I want to say that the danger of not heeding conscience is greater than heeding one that is excessively scrupulous, as if one is born of the Spirit than greater discernment will result, often thru others helping somewhat, whereas dismissing conscience, vs. discerning what is valid conviction or impressions, leads to ruin. And yes, the devil can influence thoughts (certain governments are working to do the same), and as said, works to lead souls into two extremes.
Scrupulosity can be quite paralyzing though and block someone from their real GOD-given purpose…a purpose usually contingent upon one’s ability to accept God’s grace and mercy.
One can be religious and lost, but for the regenerate who perseveres then such will both serve God and find deliverance, in contrary to making excuses for lack of diligence and unscrupulous behavior. Conscience judges behavior based upon its |"programing," but an over zealous conscience tends to be obsessed details as regard what should be done and what was not.
Thus if one has been taught that self-sacrifice is what is good and selfish lustful self-indulgence is wrong - both of which are true - than the scrupulous person can be driven to extremes of self-sacrifice and denial of anything pleasant, unless a sufficiently clear sign or indication from God is perceived. And thus under the weight of conscience the scrupulous can go to extremes in the former as well as the latter.
And yet God does require and bless self-sacrifice that is out of faith and manifest signs of approval. And some of the scrupulous behavior can be in going overboard in doing what actually is God specific will in a situation. And thus there is a need for objective analysis before God and discernment and balance thereby. Before the believer does speak to a co-worker about his need for repentance and faith which the coworker may attack him for, then he can ask God to work things out conducive for that communication, if that is God's will, and the words to say and heart to say them. Of course, most Christians have just the opposite of a scrupulous zealous conscience, and dismiss any idea that taking small items from their employers (who does not allow it) is wrong, and or that one should try to share the faith with those who cross their path. Then there are those who never had a actual day of salvation with its profound basic transformative changed in heart and life and know not of the Lord's leading.
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